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Tab5crux


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Take multivitamin in addition then maybe you can get away with your current diet


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Take multivitamin in addition then maybe you can get away with your current diet

A multivitamin is a supplement, too. It should have the same backbone.


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Only speaking in context of how to easily supplement his current diet without drastically changing it.

hey spike, ever think of becoming a teacher if you aren't already?


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Tab5crux wrote:
Only speaking in context of how to easily supplement his current diet without drastically changing it.

hey spike, ever think of becoming a teacher if you aren't already?

Ahhh.

Teach for America wouldn't have me. So I'm in grad school instead Tongue


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How about a supplement for your supplement idea then?


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Tab5crux wrote:
How about a supplement for your supplement idea then?
I don't follow. What do you mean?


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When you work out you use up more than just simple sugars you intend to replace with the powders. Since your body work optimally with a whole slew of nutrients and vitamins why not just supplement your powder supplement with a multivitamin supplement so that you get the max recovery and build you possibly can?


I may be just ranting fyi


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When you work out you use up more than just simple sugars you intend to replace with the powders. Since your body work optimally with a whole slew of nutrients and vitamins why not just supplement your powder supplement with a multivitamin supplement so that you get the max recovery and build you possibly can?


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The post workout shake needs the simple carbs to tend to the blood sugar situation brought on by the exercise. The other nutrients can be gotten from your diet. No need to take them in the shake.

If you mean someone should make something that gives you all those nutrients in one easy to consume form, meal replacement bars to a pretty good job of this, but nothing is as good as a good balanced diet.


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Post work out shakes are completely unnecessary.

"Effect of Protein-Supplement Timing on Strength, Power, and Body-Composition Changes in Resistance-Trained Men

The effect of 10 wk of protein-supplement timing on strength, power, and body composition was examined in 33 resistance-trained men. Participants were randomly assigned to a protein supplement either provided in the morning and evening (n = 13) or provided immediately before and immediately after workouts (n = 13). In addition, 7 participants agreed to serve as a control group and did not use any protein or other nutritional supplement. During each testing session participants were assessed for strength (one-repetition-maximum [1RM] bench press and squat), power (5 repetitions performed at 80% of 1RM in both the bench press and the squat), and body composition. A significant main effect for all 3 groups in strength improvement was seen in 1RM bench press (120.6 ± 20.5 kg vs. 125.4 ± 16.7 at Week 0 and Week 10 testing, respectively) and 1RM squat (154.5 ± 28.4 kg vs. 169.0 ± 25.5 at Week 0 and Week 10 testing, respectively). However, no significant between-groups interactions were seen in 1RM squat or 1RM bench press. Significant main effects were also seen in both upper and lower body peak and mean power, but no significant differences were seen between groups. No changes in body mass or percent body fat were seen in any of the groups. Results indicate that the time of protein-supplement ingestion in resistance-trained athletes during a 10-wk training program does not provide any added benefit to strength, power, or body-composition changes."


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Post work out shakes are completely unnecessary.

"Effect of Protein-Supplement Timing on Strength, Power, and Body-Composition Changes in Resistance-Trained Men

The effect of 10 wk of protein-supplement timing on strength, power, and body composition was examined in 33 resistance-trained men.
Hey dude, protein shakes are not what we are talking about. We already clarified that we are talking about carb shakes with relitively small amounts of protein, which have been shown time and time again to have a beneficial effect on glycogen levels and muscle recovery in general.


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glycogen levels and muscle recovery for more climbing in the same day or early the next day, or just in general?


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glycogen levels and muscle recovery for more climbing in the same day or early the next day, or just in general?
Well, a PWO shake is generally for the next day, but if you are taking a long break (>2 hours) then it can be between sessions. If the break was shorter then that I would use something less concentrated that would leave the stomach faster, such as a dilute high-glucose sports drink.

The muscle recovery is slightly longer term, but a good PWO shake will help speed things up in any time frame.

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