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areyoumydude
Sep 11, 2011, 4:38 PM
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camhead wrote: j_ung wrote: BTW, what is "O n O?" I dunno. Sounds like some really perverted sexual position.
I've always called it ATM.
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climbingtrash
Sep 11, 2011, 4:49 PM
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areyoumydude wrote: camhead wrote: j_ung wrote: BTW, what is "O n O?" I dunno. Sounds like some really perverted sexual position. I've always called it ATM.
ATM? Iz that yore "safe" word?
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areyoumydude
Sep 11, 2011, 4:57 PM
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climbingtrash wrote: areyoumydude wrote: camhead wrote: j_ung wrote: BTW, what is "O n O?" I dunno. Sounds like some really perverted sexual position. I've always called it ATM. ATM? Iz that yore "safe" word?
There is nothing safe about ATM.
My safe word is "TAKE!"
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climbingtrash
Sep 11, 2011, 5:11 PM
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areyoumydude wrote: climbingtrash wrote: areyoumydude wrote: camhead wrote: j_ung wrote: BTW, what is "O n O?" I dunno. Sounds like some really perverted sexual position. I've always called it ATM. ATM? Iz that yore "safe" word? There is nothing safe about ATM. My safe word is "TAKE!"
OIC.
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hugepedro
Sep 11, 2011, 10:13 PM
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areyoumydude wrote: hugepedro wrote: I've had lockers hanging in my gear room for years and gravity has yet to unscrew. Why do you lock your 'biners that are hanging in your gear room? 
Safety first, duh.
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areyoumydude
Sep 12, 2011, 10:29 AM
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hugepedro wrote: areyoumydude wrote: hugepedro wrote: I've had lockers hanging in my gear room for years and gravity has yet to unscrew. Why do you lock your 'biners that are hanging in your gear room? Safety first, duh.
Wow, that's pretty safe. Hopefully they weren't O&O.
I've always been more of a "Safety Third" kinda guy.
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hugepedro
Sep 12, 2011, 10:54 AM
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areyoumydude wrote: hugepedro wrote: areyoumydude wrote: hugepedro wrote: I've had lockers hanging in my gear room for years and gravity has yet to unscrew. Why do you lock your 'biners that are hanging in your gear room? Safety first, duh. Wow, that's pretty safe. Hopefully they weren't O&O. I've always been more of a "Safety Third" kinda guy.
Yeah well you don't know what goes on in my gear room. On a good night it becomes "The Dungeon".
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cracklover
Sep 12, 2011, 11:27 AM
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benj wrote: rescueman wrote: But I continue to assert that the reason we use two carabiners in a top rope belay, even when no longer needed for security, is to increase the overall bend radius (effective sheave diameter) and decrease the probability of damaging the rope fibers. No way! The master point on a TR is a single point of catastrophic failure of the system. The amount of motion at that point and the fact that it is unattended is the real reason it often receives two carabiners. Carabiners connecting belay/rappel devices can be checked and managed by the user. A toprope anchor master point cannot. It could be a misguided attempt to avoid friction for you but everyone else I have ever met who uses two opposed biners does so to prevent any event that could free the rope from the system. An experienced climber can understand when two biners are superflous or supersitious. Beginners should continue to learn rules that will ultimately contribute to an increased level of safety in situations they cannot properly judge. Through experience everyone learns why rules can be bent or broken.
This^^^
I'll just add that the experienced climber will eventually run into the situation in which the two rope-end biners prefer to sit in such a way that their gates are both facing straight out away from the wall. I've most commonly found this at the top of sport climbs with closely spaced anchor bolts.
In such a situation, the experienced climber will recognize that they're not doing anyone any favors by following the default, and will instead orient both gates *away* from the rock.
Cheers,
GO
(This post was edited by cracklover on Sep 12, 2011, 11:37 AM)
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areyoumydude
Sep 12, 2011, 11:56 AM
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hugepedro wrote: areyoumydude wrote: hugepedro wrote: areyoumydude wrote: hugepedro wrote: I've had lockers hanging in my gear room for years and gravity has yet to unscrew. Why do you lock your 'biners that are hanging in your gear room? Safety first, duh. Wow, that's pretty safe. Hopefully they weren't O&O. I've always been more of a "Safety Third" kinda guy. Yeah well you don't know what goes on in my gear room. On a good night it becomes "The Dungeon".
Oh my. I'd go with auto-lockers for that type of thing. Just to be safe.
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hugepedro
Sep 12, 2011, 1:12 PM
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areyoumydude wrote: hugepedro wrote: areyoumydude wrote: hugepedro wrote: areyoumydude wrote: hugepedro wrote: I've had lockers hanging in my gear room for years and gravity has yet to unscrew. Why do you lock your 'biners that are hanging in your gear room? Safety first, duh. Wow, that's pretty safe. Hopefully they weren't O&O. I've always been more of a "Safety Third" kinda guy. Yeah well you don't know what goes on in my gear room. On a good night it becomes "The Dungeon". Oh my. I'd go with auto-lockers for that type of thing. Just to be safe. [image]http://movieimage1.tripod.com/pulpfiction/pulp15.jpg[/image]
See? Now you're not so much a safety third kinda guy, are ya.
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