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"...one nation, under God..."?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZBTyTWOZCM

Research it... Those 2 words were added in 1954.


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While I say the pledge, I haven't uttered "under God" in 20+ years.


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When do adults even say the pledge? I haven't been in a context where it'd be appropriate since grade school.


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styndall wrote:
When do adults even say the pledge? I haven't been in a context where it'd be appropriate since grade school.

I think you (and pretty much everybody else) have it backwards. It's a meaningless ritual when they are just repeating words they are told to with no understanding of what they mean. Kids are way too young to be pledging their allegiance to anything.


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Circa, 1941... This was the propper way, until concern that the Bellame Salute looked too much like the Nazi salute, so it was changed to the hand over the heart.
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styndall wrote:
When do adults even say the pledge? I haven't been in a context where it'd be appropriate since grade school.

It's become quite fashionable down here in Jesusland.


I also attend a lot of my daughter's school functions.


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veganclimber wrote:
styndall wrote:
When do adults even say the pledge? I haven't been in a context where it'd be appropriate since grade school.

I think you (and pretty much everybody else) have it backwards. It's a meaningless ritual when they are just repeating words they are told to with no understanding of what they mean. Kids are way too young to be pledging their allegiance to anything.

Oh, I didn't mean that it was appropriate for kids to say the pledge, but rather that it was essentially only kids, in my experience, who ever said it.

Not 'appropriate' in the 'we should do this' sense, but appropriate in the 'people are doing it around and there's social pressure to do likewise' sense.


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traddad wrote:
It's become quite fashionable down here in Jesusland.


Oh, to just hear them say it in, say, Arabic...

"...one nation under Allah..."


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traddad wrote:
While I say the pledge, I haven't uttered "under God" in 20+ years.

Amen to that. I remember having to recite the pledge every morning in kindergarden, and even at that early age leaving out the "under god" bit. Come to think of it, I honestly don't think I've ever said anything but the original pledge.


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