Actually a glance at their website tells me that they unfortunately use sucrose instead of glucose/dextrose. Too bad, really.

You are right the accelerade uses sucrose(table sugar). The Endurox uses dextrose and/or sucrose and maltodextrin depending on the flavor. Wasn't careful checking the ingredients. Why do you consider the use of sucrose a bad thing?

Firslty if I am drinking a sports drink during sport I want an obscenely high GI - I am exercising at that point and I want the glucose in my bloodstream as soon as possible.

Secondly sucrose is half fructose, and your body can't deal with fructose nearly as well as it deals with glucose. Our diets just didn't contain that much fructose compared to glucose, so our bodies are dialed in to work primarily on glucose.

The problem is that your body can only process so much glucose(or any simple sugar) at one time, and that research has proven that multiple simple sugar sources are better at restoring or maintaining glycogen levels. This article http://jap.physiology.org/...t/96/4/1277.abstract and many others provide very convincing evidence that multiple sugar sources are optimal. It is widely accepted in the cycling community. let me know if you don't have access and I can email the pdf

I'm looking at the ingredients on the back of the during drink mix, it has , sucrose, whey, trehalose TM(maybe a proprietary type of "ose"?), fructose, maltodextrin, in that order, and some other stuff.

On the back of the recovery drink mix it has, Dextrose, Whey, maltodextrin, magnesium carbonate, vitamin e, ascorbic acid, l glutamine.

Apparently, the during drink has a few different types of sugars, yes?

BTW, stuff doesn't taste bad at all, pretty good, about gatorade good.

I've had more than one person I climb with mention they see my style has improved

This whole premise, "getting better without training" is a rhetorical/semantics game. You redefine "training" to mean whatever you want it to mean so that your method doesn't fit within the definiton, and voila...you are training but not "training".

not at all, training has a specific definition and requires goal setting and scheduling among other things. No structure = no training.

Wrong. You saying it, doesn't make it so.

Websters:

"3 a : to form by instruction, discipline, or drill
b : to teach so as to make fit, qualified, or proficient
4: to make prepared (as by exercise)

Now why don't you go ahead and show me where that says anything about goal setting, scheduling or structure. Don't like Websters? Let's try another, how about Oxfords:

"develop and improve (a mental or physical faculty) through instruction or practice"

Well shit, you're still wrong. Maybe try Cambridge?

"to prepare or be prepared for a job, activity or sport, by learning skills and/or by mental or physical exercise"

Still wrong. Perhaps MacMillan?
"to practise a sport regularly before a match or competition"

Your failure to comprehend the very essence of the subject you seek to posture as an expert on is revealing.

Wow did I just almost-facepalm. That's when I was about to facepalm but then laughed at you instead.

You have 24000+ posts on rc.n00b, and climb what...5.9? Keep laughing haggis boy.

Maybe set up a schedule for the laughing and you could call it training.

What you knobs can't seem to comprehend is that practice IS training. Bouldering with your friends in the gym without a structure, formal goals, or schedule is STILL practice which is still training.

Homeboy is jabbering about "well your definitions seem to imply that.." Uh, FAIL. Definitions do not need to imply, they are specifically EXPLICIT, not IMPLICIT. Read the definitions, they indicate practice and/or preparation, not scheduling and specific goals.

If you weaklings had some basic understanding of the topic you'd actually BE training instead of wanking about to the result of 25k posts on a site full of wankers, n00bs, and never was beens and hanging your way up routes I routinely solo.


But please, carry on...without me. Now that I recall why I rarely visit this clown show fail parade, I'll mosey on back to my regular haunts.

You have 24000+ posts on rc.n00b, and climb what...5.9? Keep laughing haggis boy.

Maybe set up a schedule for the laughing and you could call it training.

What you knobs can't seem to comprehend is that practice IS training. Bouldering with your friends in the gym without a structure, formal goals, or schedule is STILL practice which is still training.

Homeboy is jabbering about "well your definitions seem to imply that.." Uh, FAIL. Definitions do not need to imply, they are specifically EXPLICIT, not IMPLICIT. Read the definitions, they indicate practice and/or preparation, not scheduling and specific goals.

If you weaklings had some basic understanding of the topic you'd actually BE training instead of wanking about to the result of 25k posts on a site full of wankers, n00bs, and never was beens and hanging your way up routes I routinely solo.


But please, carry on...without me. Now that I recall why I rarely visit this clown show fail parade, I'll mosey on back to my regular haunts.

not at all, training has a specific definition and requires goal setting and scheduling among other things. No structure = no training. Its true that every time we climb we are practicing in one form or another but unstructured practice can not be considered training.