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RunRocket


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I am a total noob when it comes to climbing. I bought some MadRock lace up hookers cause they were on sale. I have climbed this building across the street about 20 times. They hurt like a mutha. I can only wear them for 10 minutes at a time, then I have to take a break from my shoes! This is the only pair of climbing shoes I have ever owned and have no friends that climb. Is this normal? Also they do not fit tight on my heel. There is an air pocket right at the bottom rear most part of my heel. I can't even drive my heel in to the ground to get rid of it. Is this normal? Also does any one climb barefoot, or is that just for hillbillys? (that last part is a serious question)


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Climbing shoes are usually not comfortable, but if they are unbearable, then you've got the wrong shoes, my friend. Go to the nearest rock gym and talk to people in person. Most gyms sell shoes so you should try some on and see what you like.


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Hey boy,
I us to be one of dem der hillbilly an climed wit my feets all bare, but now I gots me a edjumacashan an gots me some shoos dat er good an tight...jus like da hogs back on da farm. If der 2 tight, like a chiken then der no good fer you. Do like the last guy said.


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RunRocket wrote:
I am a total noob when it comes to climbing. I bought some MadRock lace up hookers cause they were on sale. I have climbed this building across the street about 20 times. They hurt like a mutha. I can only wear them for 10 minutes at a time, then I have to take a break from my shoes! This is the only pair of climbing shoes I have ever owned and have no friends that climb. Is this normal? Also they do not fit tight on my heel. There is an air pocket right at the bottom rear most part of my heel. I can't even drive my heel in to the ground to get rid of it. Is this normal? Also does any one climb barefoot, or is that just for hillbillys? (that last part is a serious question)

You bought the wrong shoe or shoe size - end of story. There are enough "what shoe should I buy" threads floating around that it shouldn't be a problem to figure out that your shoes should be comfortably snug, but not painful. And if you have a big air pocket then you really should consider a different last or manufacturer.

And FWIW, the first pair of shoes is almost always a miss. Sort of a right of passage.


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There's at least one real climbing gym in Austin, you should visit it.


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RunRocket wrote:
I am a total noob when it comes to climbing. I bought some MadRock lace up hookers cause they were on sale. I have climbed this building across the street about 20 times. They hurt like a mutha. I can only wear them for 10 minutes at a time, then I have to take a break from my shoes! This is the only pair of climbing shoes I have ever owned and have no friends that climb. Is this normal? Also they do not fit tight on my heel. There is an air pocket right at the bottom rear most part of my heel. I can't even drive my heel in to the ground to get rid of it. Is this normal? Also does any one climb barefoot, or is that just for hillbillys? (that last part is a serious question)
Why does this keep coming up? It's a real simple concept - if your feet hurt and your shoes are painful, you cannot concentrate on climbing. Climbing shoes should not be painful!!! There are about 8000 threads on this site alone providing assistance in shoe selection and fit. You also have a local gym. Use these sources of info.


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Buying too small shoes because they are on saile is false economy. I know, I've done it several times.

There is a difference between snug and painfull, snug is good, painful is bad.


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I think I rented the wrong size, because I was climbing a 5.6 and got a horrible charlie horse on one of the easiest footholds ever.


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At the University, they have a climbing wall. But other than that San Antonio is full of fat people. They can't climb a ladder so, no local climbing wall.
I thought I got the size too small so I got a size up and returned the smaller size. Maybe these shoes are just sh!t. I guess I need to go drop a $100. I got these online. I should probably stop buying the x-tra large condoms just because they are on sale too. I just end up bagging leaves with them anyway.
It's not that they are too small, I think they may be too big because of that air pocket in the back. They are shaped like an severe arch. Who's foot is shaped like that? Maybe a chameleon.


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Dec 2, 2011, 11:58 AM
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the shoes simply didnt fit

the golden rule ... try yr shoes before buying ...

doesnt matter how much other people love em, or how cheap they are ... they need to fit yr foot


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If the shoes actually fit you get used to it but it takes some time. Your shoes sound like they don't fit. Buying climbing shoes over the internet is a bad idea unless you've sized them elsewhere already. So go to Austin.


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marc801 wrote:
RunRocket wrote:
I am a total noob when it comes to climbing. I bought some MadRock lace up hookers cause they were on sale. I have climbed this building across the street about 20 times. They hurt like a mutha. I can only wear them for 10 minutes at a time, then I have to take a break from my shoes! This is the only pair of climbing shoes I have ever owned and have no friends that climb. Is this normal?

Why does this keep coming up? It's a real simple concept - if your feet hurt and your shoes are painful, you cannot concentrate on climbing.

Answer - because there are bozos out there that say it's OK for them to hurt. Sadly, this includes some retail salespeople. That's why it's so important to buy from a decent store, where the people advising you know what they are talking about.

Nevertheless, the reply upthread that called too-tight-first-shoes a rite of passage pretty much hit it on the head.


RunRocket


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OK I took a 7"disc sander to the hard rubber around the heel and sides of the shoe. They fit fine now. No pain. The rubber on the sides of the shoe was pulling hard on the ankle part on the back and forcing my toes into the front of the shoe. Now my toes are scrunched up and tight in the front but not so much that I start leaking testosterone from my eyes(they weren't tears after all)
They still have a weird air pocket in the heel, but the ankle fits tight.
At least I'll be able to use them now.


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RunRocket wrote:
They still have a weird air pocket in the heelAt least I'll be able to use them now.

They still don't fit well. Glad you figured out a liveable solution. Next shoe you buy should be comfortable snug and there should be no air pocket in the heel. Try looking at other brands, there is a big diffreence in how the different brands fit. I have little heels so I can not wear mad rock, evolve or 5.10. But LaSportiva and scapra fit well.


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Sounds like you bought some bad fitting shoes.

Go to a shop with knowledgable staff and ask their advice.
When they find you a pair of shoes that fit you well (you'll know), buy from the guy who helped fit you, don't bugger off and buy them online.


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I did try on a pair of LaSportiva shoes that I really liked. But they were like $50 more than the madrock online.
Penny wise and pound foolish.


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Water leaking from your eyes is nothing. Get back to us when you have blood leaking from your eyelets.


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RunRocket wrote:
They are shaped like an severe arch. Who's foot is shaped like that? Maybe a chameleon.
That shape is by design. When you put your foot in it, it wants to straighten out the shoe, thus the shoe becomes stiffer, forces an incredibly tight fit at the toes, and is very sensitive. Generally, downturned shoes are *not* beginner shoes because your feet aren't strong enough to put up with the abuse.

There are also a lot of climbers with significant foot problems that now need to wear shoes 3 sizes too big, thanks to trying to wear shoes too small and compressive.


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There are also a lot of climbers with significant foot problems that now need to wear shoes 3 sizes too big, thanks to trying to wear shoes too small and compressive.


Name two


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Sheldon wrote:
marc801 wrote:
There are also a lot of climbers with significant foot problems that now need to wear shoes 3 sizes too big, thanks to trying to wear shoes too small and compressive.


Name two
You wouldn't know them cause they're not big names and haven't been in any articles or comps. But offhand, I personally know of at least 8. A thread on this site from earlier this year alludes to the same thing:
http://www.rockclimbing.com/...rum.cgi?post=2474625


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Do you get dressed on your own?

If not, tell the person dressing you to quit putting shoes on your your feet that are so tight that they are painful.


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RunRocket wrote:
I bought some MadRock lace up hookers cause they were on sale. )

Same deal for me with Madrock Hooker velcro a couple years back. On sale, seemed to fit (snug, but not painful), but I noticed there is was a ridge in the top of the toe box that jammed into the top of my toes. Couldn't do more than a couple goes on a boulder problem before it hurt. Turns out they're just an awful design.


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