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USnavy


Dec 23, 2011, 1:08 AM
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Petzl is walking a thin line with SOPA...
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So you know that crap law thats currently under legislation called SOPA? You know, the one that wants to strip you of your online rights and censor a host of websites? Well recently a list of official supporters was released and guess who was on that list? Petzl. However Petzl was quick to recant with an official press statement stating, "Petzl America has not and does not support SOPA or the Protect IP Act. Nor do we support any legislation that would harm the freedom of the Internet."

I wonder if Petzl originally supported the bill but than came under heat for supporting such an unpopular quark. With their reputation at stake, they released this statement once they realized no one actually supports this crap shot. I hope I am wrong.

http://www.petzl.com/...tect-ip#comment-3342

And for those interested in the truth behind SOPA:

http://www.youtube.com/...sc&feature=share

This thing is a seriously evil bill. It is undoubtedly the biggest threat to civil rights that has been presented so far this decade. The sad thing is that many of the key members that support this bill, such as CNET, Disney and MSN, use to support illegal file sharing. They enabled their users to illegally download media by hosting torrent and P2P programs on their websites. They even went as far as to suggest, and allow their users to search for, music and other media that you could illegally download through the programs they branded and hosted. Now they are all big into stopping the sharing of illegal media, after they already made billions off of it.

Talk about do as I say, not as I do. These guys have to be the biggest hypocrites of the century.


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Toast_in_the_Machine


Dec 28, 2011, 8:02 AM
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I understand why Petzl would support a bill like SOPA. If they saw it as a way to protect their brand from dangerous knockoffs.

With that said, SOPA is some seriously dumb legislation. If you owned a website I didn't like (say a congressman) and there were images on there that I could possibly claim the copyright to (say an image of the city the congressman was from), ask it would take is a letter to the sure hosting the web page (written in appropriate legal language) and the hosting company would take down the site or, if my claim is correct, the hosting site would be as culpable as the offending site. Hosting companies would be dropping sites left and right. Kiss RC.com goodbye (yes, I just used another wrbsites domain name - they could now send a letter like mine.)

Godaddy backpeddled, I wonder who is next?


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Dec 31, 2011, 8:42 AM
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Toast_in_the_Machine wrote:
I understand why Petzl would support a bill like SOPA.

They don't support SOPA. In fact, they are specifically against it. The thread title is a bit misleading.

That said, fuck SOPA. Fuck it with a flaming barbed-wire chainsaw. Sideways. Mad


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Dec 31, 2011, 8:54 AM
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Per maplight.org, here's a list of organizations that support SOPA: 1-800 Contacts, Inc.
1-800-PetMeds
3M Company
ABRO Industries, Inc.
Acushnet Company
Adidas America
Advanced Medical Technology Association
AFL-CIO
Alliance for Safe Online Pharmacies
Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers
American Association of Independent Music
American Federation of Musicians
Americans for Tax Reform
Association of American Publishers
Automotive Aftermarket Industry Association
Beam Global Spirits &Wine
Blue Sky Studios, Inc.
Bose Corporation
Broadcast Music, Inc. (BMI)
Burberry
CBS Corporation
Comcast
Concerned Women for America
Council of State Governments
Deluxe Entertainment Services Group Inc.,
Directors Guild of America
Disney
Dow Chemical
Electronic Components Industry Association
Eli Lilly and Company
Entertainment Software Association
Estee Lauder Companies
Ford Motor Company
Greeting Card Association
HarperCollins Publishers
Independent Film & Television Alliance
International Association of Fire Fighters
International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers
International Brotherhood of Teamsters
International Trademark Association
Johnson & Johnson
Kekepana International Services
Let Freedom Ring
LVMH MoŽt Hennessy Louis Vuitton
Major League Baseball
Merck
Motion Picture Association of America
National Association of Broadcasters
National Association of Manufacturers
National Association of Theatre Owners
National Basketball Association
National Cable & Telecommunications Association
National Confectioners Association
National Criminal Justice Association
National District Attorneys Association
National Electrical Manufacturers Association
National Football League
National Music Publishers' Association
National Retail Federation
NBC Universal
News Corporation
Nike, Inc.
Nintendo
Outdoor Industry Association
Pfizer
Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America
Philip Morris International
Recording Industry Association of America
Retail Industry Leaders Association
Screen Actors Guild
Small Business & Entrepreneurship Council
Small Business and Entrepreneurship Council
Society of Plastics Industry
Software & Information Industry Association
Sony Music Entertainment
Sony Pictures Entertainment
Specialty Equipment Market Association
Sporting Goods Manufacturer's Association
Taylor Made Golf Company, Inc.
Tiffany & Co.
Timberland Company
Time Warner
U. S. Chamber of Commerce
Underwriters Laboratories Inc.
Universal Music Group Inc.
Viacom
Walmart
Warner Music Group
Xerox Corporation


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Dec 31, 2011, 9:04 AM
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And orgs that oppose it:

4chan
American Civil Liberties Union
American Library Association
American Society of News Editors
AOL
Arianna Huffington, co-founder of The Huffington Post
Association of College and Research Libraries
Association of Research Libraries
Benetech
Biz Stone, co-founder of Obvious and Twitter
Bloomberg
Boing Boing
Brewster Kahle, founder of the Internet Archive and co-founder of Alexa Internet
Brookings Institute
Business Software Alliance
Caterina Fake, co-founder of Flickr and Hunch
Center for Democracy & Technology
Center for Media Justice
Center for Rural Strategies
Chad Hurley, co-founder of YouTube
Competitive Enterprise Institute
Computer & Communications Industry Association
Computer and Communications Industry Association
Consumer Electronics Association
Consumer Federation of America
Consumers Union
Craig Newmark, founder of craigslist
Creative Commons
Creatorsí Freedom Project
Daily Kos
David Filo, co-founder of Yahoo!
Demand Progress
Disqus
eBay
EDUCAUSE
Electronic Frontier Foundation
Elon Musk, co-founder of PayPal
Engine Advocacy
Entertainment Consumers Assocation
Evan Williams, co-founder of Blogger and Twitter
Facebook
Freedom House
Go Daddy
Google
Grooveshark
Human Rights First
Human Rights Watch
Hype Machine
Information Technology Industry Council
Internews
Irregular Times
Jack Dorsey, co-founder of Twitter and Square
Jerry Yang, co-founder of Yahoo!
Jimmy Wales, founder of Wikipedia and the Wikimedia Foundation
Kickstarter
Marc Andreessen, co-founder of Netscape and Andreessen Horowitz
MetaFilter
Microsoft
MoveOn
Mozilla
NetCoalition
New America Foundationís Open Technology Initiative
O'Reilly Radar
Open Internet Coalition
OpenDNS
Pierre Omidyar, founder of eBay
Progressive Change Campaign Committee
Public Knowledge
Rackspace
Reddit
Reid Hoffman, co-founder of LinkedIn
Reporters Without Borders
Sergey Brin, co-founder of Google
TechAmerica
Techdirt
TechFreedom
TechNet
Torrentfreak
Tumblr
Twitter
U.S. Public Interest Group
Union Square Ventures
United States Student Association
Wikimedia Foundation
Writers Guild of America, West
Yahoo
Zynga


Toast_in_the_Machine


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Nintendo, EA, and Sony have now dropped support.

http://articles.businessinsider.com/...ght-sopa-online-bill


calvo


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I love 4chan lol


Toast_in_the_Machine


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calvo wrote:
I love 4chan lol

From the quality of your posts, one could never have guessed that.


calvo


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The pain the pain! Any updates on the companies who support and don't support SOPA?


Toast_in_the_Machine


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calvo wrote:
The pain the pain! Any updates on the companies who support and don't support SOPA?

None that I have - I'll check reddit to see.


calvo


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Ahh, well read I see. I approve


rgbscan


Jan 9, 2012, 7:40 AM
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Anyone have a breakout of who belongs to the Outdoor Industry Association so we can start a list clarifying the position of each? I definitely want to know which gear brands are trying to help pass this terrible legislation.


rgbscan


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Ok, I found a press release from the Outdoor Industry Association stating that they were mistakenly included, because they had expressed support for shutting down counterfeiting on a US chamber of Commerce website. The chamber apparently took this to mean they could include them as SOPA supporters, which the Outdoor Industry Association says they are not and haven't been.

However, many outdoors companies are still members of the chamber of commerce, and the chamber still supports SOPA.

http://www.outdoorindustry.org/news.webnews.php?newsId=15624&newsletterId=253&newsSubType=Trade&utm_source=informz&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=WN20120104%20Issues&action=display


rgbscan


Jan 18, 2012, 1:21 PM
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Being that it's SOPA/PIPA strike day, Here's some outdoors companies off the latest crowd-sourced SOPA supporter list located at:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmGJz_37ojoqdFZhYlBhN2hQOGRoN2R0ZGh3VDZlblE&pli=1#gid=0

Adidas America (new owners of 5.10)
Columbia Sportswear Company
Ex Officio
Exxel Outdoors
Marmot
New Balance
Outdoor Research Inc
VF Corporation (owns The North Face, Jansport, Eastpak, Reef, Eagle Creek, Timberland, Vans)
Vibram


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