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USnavy wrote: jimd118 wrote: Hi everyone, I manage a climbing gym for a university and I will be needing to hire a few new people. Most of the applicants are in the same boat with 6-12 months of climbing experience. We will train them on the specifics they need to know when they are hired so thats not a big deal however being that they are all close in experience I want to interview them and not give generic questions. I am open to any interview question ideas you guys feel would be important and would set the people that will be hard workers and most importantly use safe habits. Our gym has a 60 foot wall with 4 top ropes, 3 leading lines, and a overhung bouldering area. These new hires will be responsible for belaying, teaching clinics as they gain experience, route setting, and safety inspections. Appreciate any help. Jim Well first scrap the six months of experience requirement that’s not anywhere NEAR enough experience to be an instructor. I would ask them what grade they climb and make them prove it. Now I know a bunch of people here will bitch and say what grade you climb is irrelevant but that’s not true. What grade you climb is often fairly proportional to your experience level. If you have been climbing sport for a long time you probably climb at least 5.11. Likewise if you only climb 5.10a sport you probably don’t have much experience sport climbing. Not to mention if they are teaching a class on lead climbing and they can barely get up the wall that will severely undermine their knowledge and experience from the view point of the customers. Personally if I managed the gym would not hire anyone with less than three years climbing experience and I would require they are very well versed in leading and a damn good belayer and I would want to see them lead a hard line and watch them catch some big falls to see how they react. However a lot of it will come down to what type of audience you tailor to. If I hire a guide or instructor for anything I would expect and require they are much more experienced then I am. Well first off I am guessing you have never worked or managed a gym in the eastern United States. Our gym is in Ohio and true experienced climbers are few and far between. And being that we are a college gym when we do hire a experienced climber we typically can only hang on to them for a few years before they graduate. I am not hiring them to instruct from the start, until they build more experience they will only be belaying, monitoring the patrons, and taking care of some basic office duties. So to its a joke for me to be searching for a 5.12 climber and have him "prove" to me is climbing skill. I am looking for new employees that are going to be safe and show great potential. I dont care if they are currently struggling up 5.8 climbs, if they are taking the time to learn new things and excited about it I would rather have them working than a 5.14 climber thats a dick. We had a ton of applications and I did narrow them down to the individuals I knew were serious about climbing. At this point the main thing im trying to get from the interviews is out of these people who are the safest and who is going to maintain their interest to learn new things in climbing and potentially start instructing and setting routes in the future.
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USnavy wrote: jimd118 wrote: Hi everyone, I manage a climbing gym for a university and I will be needing to hire a few new people. Most of the applicants are in the same boat with 6-12 months of climbing experience. We will train them on the specifics they need to know when they are hired so thats not a big deal however being that they are all close in experience I want to interview them and not give generic questions. I am open to any interview question ideas you guys feel would be important and would set the people that will be hard workers and most importantly use safe habits. Our gym has a 60 foot wall with 4 top ropes, 3 leading lines, and a overhung bouldering area. These new hires will be responsible for belaying, teaching clinics as they gain experience, route setting, and safety inspections. Appreciate any help. Jim Well first scrap the six months of experience requirement that’s not anywhere NEAR enough experience to be an instructor. I would ask them what grade they climb and make them prove it. Now I know a bunch of people here will bitch and say what grade you climb is irrelevant but that’s not true. What grade you climb is often fairly proportional to your experience level. If you have been climbing sport for a long time you probably climb at least 5.11. Likewise if you only climb 5.10a sport you probably don’t have much experience sport climbing. Not to mention if they are teaching a class on lead climbing and they can barely get up the wall that will severely undermine their knowledge and experience from the view point of the customers. Personally if I managed the gym would not hire anyone with less than three years climbing experience and I would require they are very well versed in leading and a damn good belayer and I would want to see them lead a hard line and watch them catch some big falls to see how they react. However a lot of it will come down to what type of audience you tailor to. If I hire a guide or instructor for anything I would expect and require they are much more experienced then I am. This is the worst advice I've seen all day. Climbing grade is a very poor proxy by which to judge experience and competence with safety systems and instructional ability.
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jimd118 wrote: USnavy wrote: jimd118 wrote: Hi everyone, I manage a climbing gym for a university and I will be needing to hire a few new people. Most of the applicants are in the same boat with 6-12 months of climbing experience. We will train them on the specifics they need to know when they are hired so thats not a big deal however being that they are all close in experience I want to interview them and not give generic questions. I am open to any interview question ideas you guys feel would be important and would set the people that will be hard workers and most importantly use safe habits. Our gym has a 60 foot wall with 4 top ropes, 3 leading lines, and a overhung bouldering area. These new hires will be responsible for belaying, teaching clinics as they gain experience, route setting, and safety inspections. Appreciate any help. Jim Well first scrap the six months of experience requirement that’s not anywhere NEAR enough experience to be an instructor. I would ask them what grade they climb and make them prove it. Now I know a bunch of people here will bitch and say what grade you climb is irrelevant but that’s not true. What grade you climb is often fairly proportional to your experience level. If you have been climbing sport for a long time you probably climb at least 5.11. Likewise if you only climb 5.10a sport you probably don’t have much experience sport climbing. Not to mention if they are teaching a class on lead climbing and they can barely get up the wall that will severely undermine their knowledge and experience from the view point of the customers. Personally if I managed the gym would not hire anyone with less than three years climbing experience and I would require they are very well versed in leading and a damn good belayer and I would want to see them lead a hard line and watch them catch some big falls to see how they react. However a lot of it will come down to what type of audience you tailor to. If I hire a guide or instructor for anything I would expect and require they are much more experienced then I am. Well first off I am guessing you have never worked or managed a gym in the eastern United States. Our gym is in Ohio and true experienced climbers are few and far between. And being that we are a college gym when we do hire a experienced climber we typically can only hang on to them for a few years before they graduate. I am not hiring them to instruct from the start, until they build more experience they will only be belaying, monitoring the patrons, and taking care of some basic office duties. So to its a joke for me to be searching for a 5.12 climber and have him "prove" to me is climbing skill. I am looking for new employees that are going to be safe and show great potential. I dont care if they are currently struggling up 5.8 climbs, if they are taking the time to learn new things and excited about it I would rather have them working than a 5.14 climber thats a dick. We had a ton of applications and I did narrow them down to the individuals I knew were serious about climbing. At this point the main thing im trying to get from the interviews is out of these people who are the safest and who is going to maintain their interest to learn new things in climbing and potentially start instructing and setting routes in the future. Where in Ohio? I may live here but I learned my mad climbing skillz on the West Coast, baby My resume: - Am pretty - Teach good - Know about climbing shoes and shorts/pants...the TWO most commonly asked questions in the sport of rockclimbing - Did I mention that I am pretty?
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karmiclimber wrote: My resume: - Am pretty - Teach good - Know about climbing shoes and shorts/pants...the TWO most commonly asked questions in the sport of rockclimbing - Did I mention that I am pretty? Sounds good! You're hired.
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karmiclimber
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bill413 wrote: karmiclimber wrote: My resume: - Am pretty - Teach good - Know about climbing shoes and shorts/pants...the TWO most commonly asked questions in the sport of rockclimbing - Did I mention that I am pretty? Sounds good! You're hired. Thats what he said!
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[qoute] Well first off I am guessing you have never worked or managed a gym in the eastern United States. Our gym is in Ohio and true experienced climbers are few and far between. And being that we are a college gym when we do hire a experienced climber we typically can only hang on to them for a few years before they graduate. I am not hiring them to instruct from the start, until they build more experience they will only be belaying, monitoring the patrons, and taking care of some basic office duties. So to its a joke for me to be searching for a 5.12 climber and have him "prove" to me is climbing skill. I am looking for new employees that are going to be safe and show great potential. I dont care if they are currently struggling up 5.8 climbs, if they are taking the time to learn new things and excited about it I would rather have them working than a 5.14 climber thats a dick. We had a ton of applications and I did narrow them down to the individuals I knew were serious about climbing. At this point the main thing im trying to get from the interviews is out of these people who are the safest and who is going to maintain their interest to learn new things in climbing and potentially start instructing and setting routes in the future. You hit the nail on the head. I live nearby in Pittsburgh. The number of people who lead 5.10 competently is pretty small. I mean actually lead 5.10 on demand: Anyone can say they lead 5.10 If you narrow that down to those that are willing to work for minimum wage and aren't complete dick, well you get the picture. I think you are on the right track. You need somebody who is serious about climbing,learning, and safety, and is a good teacher.
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quynh012012 wrote: Hi, I do not agreed with you. Any way, your points of view make me thinking about some thing for my project. Pls try to keep posting. Tks and best regards Hmm... randomly responds to the last post on the first page (rather incoherently, I might add)... Do I feel some SPAM coming on?!?
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Hi, Good ideal, pls try to keep posting. I like this topic very much and I will digged this one. Tks again.
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hua052011 wrote: Hi, Good ideal, pls try to keep posting. I like this topic very much and I will digged this one. Tks again. "I am a highly skilled microphone cleaner, my masters. And what I most can't the least would be do not a bad job, but always a good."
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USnavy wrote: Well first scrap the six months of experience requirement that’s not anywhere NEAR enough experience to be an instructor. How many climbers with A LOT of experience do you think apply to climbing gyms? Sometimes, all you have to choose from are a bunch of warm bodies. In reply to: I would ask them what grade they climb and make them prove it. Now I know a bunch of people here will bitch and say what grade you climb is irrelevant but that’s not true. What grade you climb is often fairly proportional to your experience level. If you have been climbing sport for a long time you probably climb at least 5.11. Likewise if you only climb 5.10a sport you probably don’t have much experience sport climbing. Not to mention if they are teaching a class on lead climbing and they can barely get up the wall that will severely undermine their knowledge and experience from the view point of the customers. There is a SMALL sliver of truth to this. In general, the better climber will have a better understanding of climbing movement. BUT, being a skilled climber does not necessarily translate to being a good teacher of climbing movement.
In reply to: Personally if I managed the gym would not hire anyone with less than three years climbing experience and I would require they are very well versed in leading and a damn good belayer Having 3+ years of experience, being well versed in leading and being a good belayer will most assuredly put you in better position to get a job, but like I said, Do you think those people are lining up to what constitutes a part-time, possibly minimum wage job with likely no benefits?
In reply to: and I would want to see them lead a hard line and watch them catch some big falls to see how they react. Absolutely irrelevant. That's like asking a basketball coach to do a 360 dunk. In reply to: However a lot of it will come down to what type of audience you tailor to. If I hire a guide or instructor for anything I would expect and require they are much more experienced then I am. This actually makes sense. Josh
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Holy resurrection, batman! No pooping in the gym!
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USnavy wrote: mr.tastycakes wrote: USnavy wrote: Personally if I managed the gym would not hire anyone with less than three years climbing experience and I would require they are very well versed in leading and a damn good belayer and I would want to see them lead a hard line and watch them catch some big falls to see how they react. I don't think there is a gym staff in the entire country that meets those qualifications. And I work at a gym, BTW. So your saying there is not a single gym staff member in the USA who: 1. Has been climbing for at least three years. 2. Is comfortable leading at their absolute limit and taking a fall anytime it’s safe. 3. Knows how to provide static, running, and dynamic belays and has caught at least 250 lead falls. 4. Has caught at least one 30 footer. I think what he's saying is that no gym in the country has an entire staff that meets those qualifications. He's probably right.
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Just be careful about questions that are considered illegal during the search process....this one comes close: “How do you feel about those jokers at Congress?” And, since asking religion is considered verboten, best not to discuss sport teams.
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bill413 wrote: Just be careful about questions that are considered illegal during the search process....this one comes close: “How do you feel about those jokers at Congress?” And, since asking religion is considered verboten, best not to discuss sport teams. Hi This topic help me a lot in developing my project. I will contribute more when I finished it. If you want to get more materials that related to this topic, you can visit: typicalinterviewquestions.info/gym-teacher-interview-questions/ Best regards.
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Wow, so much good advice and as much bad advice. Interesting for sure. Guess that's rc.com
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jimd118 wrote: Hi everyone, I manage a climbing gym for a university and I will be needing to hire a few new people. Most of the applicants are in the same boat with 6-12 months of climbing experience. We will train them on the specifics they need to know when they are hired so thats not a big deal however being that they are all close in experience I want to interview them and not give generic questions. I am open to any interview question ideas you guys feel would be important and would set the people that will be hard workers and most importantly use safe habits. Our gym has a 60 foot wall with 4 top ropes, 3 leading lines, and a overhung bouldering area. These new hires will be responsible for belaying, teaching clinics as they gain experience, route setting, and safety inspections. Appreciate any help. Jim Perhaps some things in the CWA may be usefull to you. http://www.mlte.org/content.php?nID=82 I have a technique teaching check list of sorts that i use for individual climbers to track their progress and cover many things climbing related. If you like i can PM you it just as an example. Something of the likes would be usefull to the new staff so that they develop their teaching methods a little faster. The UK also has some ''official'' varients of the above, however making your own better suites the individual gym more. Btw, one question to ask is ''what would you do if a child/adult was unable to climb the easiest wall''.
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ceebo wrote: jimd118 wrote: Hi everyone, I manage a climbing gym for a university and I will be needing to hire a few new people. Most of the applicants are in the same boat with 6-12 months of climbing experience. We will train them on the specifics they need to know when they are hired so thats not a big deal however being that they are all close in experience I want to interview them and not give generic questions. I am open to any interview question ideas you guys feel would be important and would set the people that will be hard workers and most importantly use safe habits. Our gym has a 60 foot wall with 4 top ropes, 3 leading lines, and a overhung bouldering area. These new hires will be responsible for belaying, teaching clinics as they gain experience, route setting, and safety inspections. Appreciate any help. Jim Perhaps some things in the CWA may be usefull to you. http://www.mlte.org/content.php?nID=82 I have a technique teaching check list of sorts that i use for individual climbers to track their progress and cover many things climbing related. If you like i can PM you it just as an example. Something of the likes would be usefull to the new staff so that they develop their teaching methods a little faster. The UK also has some ''official'' varients of the above, however making your own better suites the individual gym more. Btw, one question to ask is ''what would you do if a child/adult was unable to climb the easiest wall''. Perhaps more important: "What would you do if a person is too terrified to come down?"
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bill413 wrote: ceebo wrote: jimd118 wrote: Hi everyone, I manage a climbing gym for a university and I will be needing to hire a few new people. Most of the applicants are in the same boat with 6-12 months of climbing experience. We will train them on the specifics they need to know when they are hired so thats not a big deal however being that they are all close in experience I want to interview them and not give generic questions. I am open to any interview question ideas you guys feel would be important and would set the people that will be hard workers and most importantly use safe habits. Our gym has a 60 foot wall with 4 top ropes, 3 leading lines, and a overhung bouldering area. These new hires will be responsible for belaying, teaching clinics as they gain experience, route setting, and safety inspections. Appreciate any help. Jim Perhaps some things in the CWA may be usefull to you. http://www.mlte.org/content.php?nID=82 I have a technique teaching check list of sorts that i use for individual climbers to track their progress and cover many things climbing related. If you like i can PM you it just as an example. Something of the likes would be usefull to the new staff so that they develop their teaching methods a little faster. The UK also has some ''official'' varients of the above, however making your own better suites the individual gym more. Btw, one question to ask is ''what would you do if a child/adult was unable to climb the easiest wall''. Perhaps more important: "What would you do if a person is too terrified to come down?" You are not being realistic at all, that question is just setting them up for a fall (pun)... your typical climbers of 6-12 month can not do or even know of by the book rescues should it come to it. I think the op already stated the climbers who get hired are going to recieve such training.
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One of the questions should be about music... eg. "Do you like shitty "techno" music and are you willing to play it non-stop at peak hours?" That seems to be a requirement around here.
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The two questions above are quite good, not to guage action but to determine attitude. Good questions for sure. When I opened Class 5 I had very limited climbers to choose from. I hired three people who had never even heard of climbing. We trained them in the basic of belaying, knot tying, and dealing with people who are scared. (Not overly hard actually) Two of those people are excellent and I hope they never leave our operation, the other quit to for a romantic relationship. A gym can train a complete non-climber to do what needs to be done for general day to day operations. Employees have plenty of down time to practice the skills while at work. I have one experienced climber on every shift, sometimes more, other time, the other staff members have no climbing experience outside of their scheduled hours. They enjoy working here, but they are going climbing on their time off. Our members like them, they have sound belay skills, top-rope and lead and can talk a new climber up or down in most cases. The climbers that work for me are very skilled for sure. We make sure they is one "real climber" on the schedule at all times. If the manager isn't in, the real climber is in charge, works pretty well. Beginning climbers have fewer bad habits to break, you just need to help them develop good habits. I hire people for their personality more than their hard skills. They are several real climbers I didn't call back for a second interview because of the personality they presented during the meeting. Their climbing skills were most likely great, their people skills were not. I think it's easier to teach people climbing skills than people skills any-day.
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Second that.
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