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mikejungle
Feb 22, 2012, 1:18 AM
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Hi...newb here.
I was looking to buy the Scarpa Techno and I was wondering how much i should size down from my street shoe. I normally wear a size 11 shoe, which gives me a little wiggle room in the toes, because 10.5 is too small.
I'll try to take a measurement of my actual foot in a little bit, but i'm having trouble finding a ruler at the moment...
I was reading the reviews here (http://www.sierratradingpost.com/scarpa-techno-climbing-shoes-for-men~p~4063n/?utm_source=GoogleBase&utm_medium=PaidShopping&utm_term=Scarpa_Techno_Climbing_Shoes_For_Men&utm_campaign=PCGOOGLEB2&codes-processed=true) and they say that it runs a bit smaller than normal climbing shoes.
I was going to pull the trigger on a 43.5, but I read one the reviews and he sized 1.5 sizes down from his street size. From the sound of it, the 43.5 sounds like it'd be a little big for me, but the 42.5 sounds way too small. Should I go with a slightly bigger shoe?
I estimate my european size to be about a 44-44.5..
Your help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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shockabuku
Feb 22, 2012, 1:49 AM
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Best to try them on somewhere. You might find they don't fit worth a damn regardless of size.
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mikejungle
Feb 22, 2012, 1:57 AM
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it's a past season shoe, so they don't really have it anywhere locally.
they do carry scarpa shoes at REI, but according to the reviews, they fit smaller than other scarpa shoes too.
So is my best bet to go with the 43.5? I would say it's a little more than half a size smaller than my street shoe. I would think it's better to go a little bigger than to go way too small and not fit into the shoe, but i want your guys' input.
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shockabuku
Feb 22, 2012, 2:44 AM
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I don't know this shoe so I can't really say.
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bill413
Feb 22, 2012, 2:10 PM
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Disclaimer: I don't know the shoe, I don't know your climbing style, I don't know your ability.
However, I would say don't go too small. You'll be happier in a shoe that's comfortable (but snug) rather than one that's excrutiatingly tight.
Most places do have a return policy if you decide that what you got was too loose.
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j_ung
Feb 22, 2012, 7:35 PM
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mikejungle wrote: Hi...newb here. I was looking to buy the Scarpa Techno and I was wondering how much i should size down from my street shoe. I normally wear a size 11 shoe, which gives me a little wiggle room in the toes, because 10.5 is too small. I'll try to take a measurement of my actual foot in a little bit, but i'm having trouble finding a ruler at the moment... I was reading the reviews here (http://www.sierratradingpost.com/scarpa-techno-climbing-shoes-for-men~p~4063n/?utm_source=GoogleBase&utm_medium=PaidShopping&utm_term=Scarpa_Techno_Climbing_Shoes_For_Men&utm_campaign=PCGOOGLEB2&codes-processed=true) and they say that it runs a bit smaller than normal climbing shoes. I was going to pull the trigger on a 43.5, but I read one the reviews and he sized 1.5 sizes down from his street size. From the sound of it, the 43.5 sounds like it'd be a little big for me, but the 42.5 sounds way too small. Should I go with a slightly bigger shoe? I estimate my european size to be about a 44-44.5.. Your help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.
There is no correct answer to your question other than that you're rolling the dice if you haven't tried them on. Various lasts upon which various shoes are made virtually guarantee that a 44 in one shoe won't fit the same as a 44 in one made on a different last. This means there is zero consistency in shoe sizes, not just between manufacturers, but also between different models of any single manufacturer.
My advice is not to buy anything without trying it on first, unless it's so inexpensive to you that you don't care if you waste the money.
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Gmburns2000
Feb 22, 2012, 8:21 PM
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mikejungle wrote: it's a past season shoe, so they don't really have it anywhere locally. they do carry scarpa shoes at REI, but according to the reviews, they fit smaller than other scarpa shoes too. So is my best bet to go with the 43.5? I would say it's a little more than half a size smaller than my street shoe. I would think it's better to go a little bigger than to go way too small and not fit into the shoe, but i want your guys' input.
if you can return it, then go ahead and roll the dice on the size you think will work best. some people will buy a couple of different sizes and simply return the ones that don't fit. check the return policy first, but if you can return it, then what's to keep you from doing things that way?
As folks have said, it depends. I used to wear the Katanas and wanted to try the Barracuda, which supposedly has the same last but is a tie-up. The Barracudas fit horribly on my feet. So really, it depends on the person.
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mikejungle
Feb 22, 2012, 9:44 PM
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Both the Mythos and the Techno have the XS Vibram sole (last?)
If i tried on the mythos, would it be accurate or inaccurate sizing?
Thanks for the help so far.
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shotwell
Feb 22, 2012, 10:14 PM
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mikejungle wrote: Both the Mythos and the Techno have the XS Vibram sole (last?) If i tried on the mythos, would it be accurate or inaccurate sizing? Thanks for the help so far.
No, the rubber used is not the last. Scarpa and La Sportiva are two different shoe companies. The Mythos is a pretty different shoe from the Techno. You'll honestly need to try on the Techno or be prepared to return it if it fits improperly. Be aware of the return policy if you order online.
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mikejungle
Feb 22, 2012, 10:16 PM
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yeah...man.
i wanted to order from sierra trading post.
it's a lot cheaper than the mythos, so i feel like it's worth a gamble.
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shotwell
Feb 22, 2012, 10:19 PM
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mikejungle wrote: yeah...man. i wanted to order from sierra trading post. it's a lot cheaper than the mythos, so i feel like it's worth a gamble.
The best thing you can do is try shoes on in person. Some shoes fit me like gloves, others fit like an iron maiden on my feet. It really isn't worth the 'savings' to get a shoe that (even potentially) doesn't fit. In the end, you'll regret it.
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mikejungle
Feb 22, 2012, 10:21 PM
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What other local choices do I have? I feel like I live in a pretty big city (San Diego), but other than REI, I have no idea where to go to buy or try on shoes.
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surfstar
Feb 23, 2012, 12:52 AM
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I'm a chronic STP purchaser. First off, never buy unless you're using a 30-35% off coupon. If you can, wait until that is combined with $2.50 shipping. Sometimes the coupons are only valid over $75 or higher purchases. No problemo - if they have a few sizes that may work - buy 3 pair. Return shipping is $5.95 no matter how much shit you return. Figure its like making the store come to you with regards to trying shoes on.
WRT the Techno - great shoe (I paid $48 plus $6 return shiping for two larger pairs). They will stretch a 1/2 size or so. Mine fit great now. I wear 12 US street shoe and the 45.5 fit great. (45.5 (US: Size 11.66) according to them).
I think the 43.5 would work fine for you - they're supposed to be a comfy long-route / all day shoe.
(This post was edited by surfstar on Feb 23, 2012, 1:01 AM)
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mikejungle
Feb 23, 2012, 1:46 AM
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thanks for the advice!
where can i grab the coupons and how often do they come out?
i'm eager to start climbing, so i don't want to wait months for a coupon to come out...
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shockabuku
Feb 23, 2012, 4:46 AM
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mikejungle wrote: What other local choices do I have? I feel like I live in a pretty big city (San Diego), but other than REI, I have no idea where to go to buy or try on shoes.
Here's an idea:
Mesa Rim Climbing Center
10110 Mesa Rim Rd.
San Diego, California 92121
(858) 348-4593
http://www.mesarim.com
> Huge 30,000 sq ft of climbing surface. Features 52' high lead climbing 5,500 sq/ft of bouldering with 18' high walk off, weight room, Yoga studio and much more.
Solid Rock - Old Town
2074 Hancock Street
San Diego, California 92110
(619) 299-1124
http://www.solidrockgym.com
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Vertical Hold Sport Climbing Inc.
9580 Distribution Ave.
San Diego, California 92121
(858) 586-7572
http://verticalhold.com/
> Over 24,000 sq. ft. of climbing surface, 30 ft height, 40 ft lead cave, 7,000 sq ft of incredible bouldering with a top out boulder, systems & campus training boards, yoga
And maybe this place:
A16 San Diego
4620 Alvarado Canyon Rd.
San Diego, CA 92120
(619) 283-2374
Or ask some of these local people:
http://www.meetup.com/...imbers-Of-San-Diego/
Most climbing gyms sell shoes. Go check some out. Climbing shoes are somewhat of an investment. It definitely helps to have someone help you find the right size and try different types on your feet.
And what's wrong with REI? You can try on shoes there all day and walk away without buying anything.
Ok I'm done.
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j_ung
Feb 23, 2012, 7:13 PM
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mikejungle wrote: Both the Mythos and the Techno have the XS Vibram sole (last?) If i tried on the mythos, would it be accurate or inaccurate sizing? Thanks for the help so far.
No problemo. Here's a good definition of a "last."
http://www.shoeschool.com/...shoe_lasts_what.html
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surfstar
Feb 24, 2012, 9:11 PM
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If you wanted to order still here's 35% off one item at STP MFT29391
$50 technos are hard to beat.
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mikejungle
Feb 24, 2012, 9:38 PM
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hey surfstar, thanks so much for that.
i got them in the 43.5 :D
and it isn't that i don't like REI, i just wanted to try this specific shoe on, but they didn't have it.
and i didn't know that gyms sold shoes too.
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