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kachoong


Mar 22, 2012, 7:46 AM
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IPissonurproj wrote:
Here's what happened:

Joe Deskjockey stopped by his local REI, just after leaving Starbucks, as he does each Tuesday evening before heading to the gym for a sick sending sesh. He's scoping out some new petzl spirits for this weekend's hardcore adventure trip to go crag at his local (within 8 hr. drive time) crag. all the sudden his quad skinny caramel latte with soy spills all over the spirit draws. This is really not cool so he jets outta REI to go change his prana pants and patagonia plaid T before heading to the gym. Unassuming consumer buys the soiled draws, which are now defective due to the extreme amount of caffiene which has jacked up the webbing....climbs, falls, decks.

Oh come on... 10 one star ratings for this?

I laffed.


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Mar 22, 2012, 2:12 PM
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To set the record straight....The biner which failed was manufactured by Mad Rock.


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Tnutts wrote:
To set the record straight....The biner which failed was manufactured by Mad Rock.
Can we expect a complete write-up at some point, or will small details continue to be posted each week in this thread?


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Tnutts wrote:
To set the record straight....The biner which failed was manufactured by Mad Rock.

Whew, that was close.

No gear for sale here, everybody move along.


Tnutts


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This biner is related to the March 11 incident on "Vomit Launch". Climber clipped 4th or 5th bolt continued climbing and fell between bolts.....the biner clipped to the hanger blew up as it caught the fall and the climber fell some more...dude ended up inverted and smacked his head on the wall. The climber self rescued which is why you won't find an accident report. The hanger the biner was clipped to was an SMC hanger which had spun horizontal. Either the climber partially clipped the biner to the hanger... meaning the notch in the nose caught on the hanger or the biner spun on the horizontal hanger which opened the gate partially allowing for an open gate scenario. I would call it a straight up accident... no fault of the gear manufacturer...just one of those things we as climbers must accept.


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Mar 22, 2012, 4:09 PM
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Tnutts wrote:
This biner is related to the March 11 incident on "Vomit Launch". Climber clipped 4th or 5th bolt continued climbing and fell between bolts.....the biner clipped to the hanger blew up as it caught the fall and the climber fell some more...dude ended up inverted and smacked his head on the wall. The climber self rescued which is why you won't find an accident report. The hanger the biner was clipped to was an SMC hanger which had spun horizontal. Either the climber partially clipped the biner to the hanger... meaning the notch in the nose caught on the hanger or the biner spun on the horizontal hanger which opened the gate partially allowing for an open gate scenario. I would call it a straight up accident... no fault of the gear manufacturer...just one of those things we as climbers must accept.

two posts on this site (both in this thread). the OP has one.

hmmmm...


6pacfershur


Mar 22, 2012, 6:26 PM
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obviously a disinformation campaign designed to boost BD sales....


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Tnutts wrote:
This biner is related to the March 11 incident on "Vomit Launch". Climber clipped 4th or 5th bolt continued climbing and fell between bolts.....the biner clipped to the hanger blew up as it caught the fall and the climber fell some more...dude ended up inverted and smacked his head on the wall. The climber self rescued which is why you won't find an accident report. The hanger the biner was clipped to was an SMC hanger which had spun horizontal. Either the climber partially clipped the biner to the hanger... meaning the notch in the nose caught on the hanger or the biner spun on the horizontal hanger which opened the gate partially allowing for an open gate scenario. I would call it a straight up accident... no fault of the gear manufacturer...just one of those things we as climbers must accept.

Is this conclusion based on an examination of the physical evidence? And if so, by who?


ianwatson


Mar 23, 2012, 9:10 AM
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moose_droppings wrote:
Tnutts wrote:
To set the record straight....The biner which failed was manufactured by Mad Rock.

Whew, that was close.

No gear for sale here, everybody move along.


For sale 8 mad rock light biners only used on draws for ropeside. Not a ton of use i work to much.


Partner j_ung


Mar 23, 2012, 9:22 AM
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Tnutts wrote:
This biner is related to the March 11 incident on "Vomit Launch". Climber clipped 4th or 5th bolt continued climbing and fell between bolts.....the biner clipped to the hanger blew up as it caught the fall and the climber fell some more...dude ended up inverted and smacked his head on the wall. The climber self rescued which is why you won't find an accident report. The hanger the biner was clipped to was an SMC hanger which had spun horizontal. Either the climber partially clipped the biner to the hanger... meaning the notch in the nose caught on the hanger or the biner spun on the horizontal hanger which opened the gate partially allowing for an open gate scenario. I would call it a straight up accident... no fault of the gear manufacturer...just one of those things we as climbers must accept.

In other words, there is no defective gear involved in this incident.


abrock5


Mar 23, 2012, 10:16 AM
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Re: [moose_droppings] REI Carabiner Failure at Smith Rock [In reply to]
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So all Metolius gear kills people now? With all of this faulty gear out there, the safest way to climb these days is to free solo. Honnold's gear has never failed him on a free ascent.


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shockabuku


Mar 23, 2012, 10:21 AM
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abrock5 wrote:
So all Metolius gear kills people now? With all of this faulty gear out there, the safest way to climb these days is to free solo. Honnold's gear has never failed him on his free assents.

Yes, but what about during his climbing?


bill413


Mar 23, 2012, 10:36 AM
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abrock5 wrote:
So all Metolius gear kills people now?

No, since moose_droppings still has a car, Metolius is safe.


abrock5


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I can't believe you caught that. I read my post IMMEDIATELY after I posted it and then edited the misspell! Stupid iPad keyboard.


shockabuku


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abrock5 wrote:
I can't believe you caught that. I read my post IMMEDIATELY after I posted it and then edited the misspell! Stupid iPad keyboard.

It was funny because I saw it, quoted it, but the quote was already the corrected version and I had to back up the page to copy/paste the original version into my post.Wink


billcoe_


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MAD ROCK YOU DAY!???? HOW ARE WE GOING TO BLAME REI NOW? SHIT, THAT SCREWS IT ALL UP.

Hope that the climber is OK, any info on that?


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I don't see what all the commotion is about - if its really from REI, no problemo - they'll take anything on return.

Next garage sale with have a bloody, broken, 'biner for 80% off.

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