Not to mention its excellent grasp of grammar.

Wherever you're from rightarm, feel free and welcomed to visit and enjoy our beautiful and majestic country. It's warm and generous nature will pleasantly surprise you.

And tell me again why it is that Americans, of all of the developed world, seem to feel the need to carry personal firearms?

Responsible firearms use is easy, there is no reason for a normal citizen to own/carry/have access to one.

You guys are just so frucked up over there.

Canadians love their guns as much as USAmericans, we're just more public about it. Maybe it's a continental thing?

I knew there was a reason the US should've invaded and annexed Canada back in 1862-64.

Because at that point they'd had 50 years to forget what happened the last time they tried it?

Exactly. This is pretty much the inevitable result of these "Stand Your Ground" laws.

Yep... Guns give people balls... How many do you think would have the confidence to confront someone without the gun in their pocket... Their 'ace in the hole'?

Now, if you confront someone BECAUSE you have the confidence that gun affords you, you cannot claim self defense... It's no difference than some punked and bullied kid talking smack on the playground when he is standing next to the teacher.


And, even a gang member could use the same argument... "I was in my own hood, mind'n my own bid'ness, when I saw a rival in a hoodie up to no good on my street, tagging my turf... I confronted him, and had to shoot him because I was in fear of my life."

Pffft! We no need grammar. We have gunz.

Yep... Guns give people balls... How many do you think would have the confidence to confront someone without the gun in their pocket... Their 'ace in the hole'?

Now, if you confront someone BECAUSE you have the confidence that gun affords you, you cannot claim self defense... It's no difference than some punked and bullied kid talking smack on the playground when he is standing next to the teacher.


And, even a gang member could use the same argument... "I was in my own hood, mind'n my own bid'ness, when I saw a rival in a hoodie up to no good on my street, tagging my turf... I confronted him, and had to shoot him because I was in fear of my life."

And, even a gang member could use the same argument... "I was in my own hood, mind'n my own bid'ness, when I saw a rival in a hoodie up to no good on my street, tagging my turf... I confronted him, and had to shoot him because I was in fear of my life."

Aug. 05--A gang of young street thugs drove into a rival gang's turf, guns at the ready, looking for a fight.

Thirty shots were fired that day in 2008. A 15-year-old kid was killed. Two of the invading gang members faced homicide charges.

But the case fell apart this spring, lost in the chasm between gun reality and the gun myths promulgated by the Florida Legislature.

As a dual Canadian/American citizen who has lived in the US for the last 8 years and in Canada for the 16 years before that, I can confidently say that this is incorrect. Guns are much less pervasive in the minds and lives of most people that I have known in Canada - and I am someone who occasionally hunts. Moreover, gun control in Canada is much more strict. Owning a handgun is difficult, and carrying one is all but impossible except in very rare circumstances.

Edit to add: *legally* that is

Florida. There's really no word that can fully encompass the level of stupid there.

Hopefully he'll wind up in the chair (wonder if he'll still agree with the death sentence when he's on the list).

Until we ban guns in the U.S and keep things legal nothing will ever change!

For the record, your post has some merit.

No shit!!! Thanx, Eric.

Screw you! Don't mention it.

Sounds like he probably has some type of insanity defense ,
( he has called 911- 46 times and for the record he is not white, he's hispanic , shouldn't make any difference) but somehow it seems not to be racially motivated.
Until we ban guns in the U.S and keep things legal nothing will ever change!

If it just wasnt for that damn constitution!!

You know they've tried banning guns in other countries.. for some unknown reason the criminals didnt get the memo.. you know your 5 times more likely to get mugged in London than in the US. You chances of dying or being injued due to gun violence in Austrailia are higher than most cities in the US.

"guns" are one of the reasons why this country even exists. You have SO MANY options.. wonderful places you could move to where no law abiding citizen has a gun.. you'd love it there.

For the rest of us.. considering there are 330 million Americans and you chances of dying due to gun violence and a hell of a lot slimmer than your chances of killing yourself at some crag.. you really have little to worry about. Certainly not enough to void that damn annoying constitution for whatever inconvenience has your panties all bunched up on a given day.

I have, and unfortunately I have the scars to prove it. Real fights (beat your opponent until he/she doesn't get up) suck and are scary.


You have a very good point. Heck if you're carrying a firearm you should actually be working even harder to avoid any confrontations because they can unintentionally turn deadly very quickly. (ie, You get in a fist fight and now have to worry about your opponent getting the handgun you're carrying.)

Chadnsc, I am glad you mentioned up the additional responsibility about avoiding confrontation. Concealed Carry laws vary from state to state but I do believe that the first responsibility taught to anyone applying for a carry permit should be avoiding confrontation. I am not apposed to concealed carry in anyway but if a person does carry he should also have the common sense and/or training to understand avoidance and escalation.

As you mentioned if you are carrying you do not have the luxury of allowing yourself to get into a physical altercation just because some guy cut you off on the road, things escalate to easily. Just because you are carrying does not mean you should walk down a dark alleyway you normally would not enter. If you go looking for trouble and you find it then you failed in self defense regardless of who walked away from it.

If you are given the right to carry, in otherwords given the right to use lethal force in self defense you should also at all times practice avoidance and understand how improper avoidance can lead to unnecessary escalation. I do not know what happened in this case and I will leave it to the courts to decide, but I do know that with the practice of a little avoidance it would have never escalated to this.