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Chinchen


Mar 23, 2012, 9:15 AM
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Been wanting to start this thread for awhile.

This is where those of us who give a shit can post pictures of stupid stuff others do to trash bouldering areas and make access and respect harder for the rest of us to gain.


Please think before coming into Bishop and throwing your tape and trash around and pooping under boulder problems (Just because you don't see chalk does not mean there is not a problem there)


This one take the cake. "HEY LOOK AT US!! WE DONT GIVE A FUCK!!"




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Just clean it up, no need for whining!!!


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That's weird. Why aren't there bullet holes in that?


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Yep, unfortunately that kind of impactful behavior only raises the visibility of climbers in the area--and the idea that something should probably be done to "manage" them.

Curt


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curt wrote:
Yep, unfortunately that kind of impactful behavior only raises the visibility of climbers in the area--and the idea that something should probably be done to "manage" them.

Curt

5 stars.


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As unfortunate as this is, it isn't limited to climbing. Lots of the CA surf breaks have signs littered with stickers. Here in berkeley, the no blood for oil crowd has painted 'driving' below the stop.

It sucks and has no place in the outdoors though.


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Ya it's not good for climbing access. With that said I've also seen many drunk ass Bishop folks putting bullet holes into every sign they see.


edge


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medusa wrote:
Just clean it up, no need for whining!!!

It's not whining, it's raising awareness. Lots of new climbers read these forums, and need to know that selfish actions can have lasting negative effects on our entire community.


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Again, if it bugged you that much when you viewed it in person,
you should of cleaned it up! i would have, but bouldering, is like masturbating in a whore house. I don't go to the BM's ! would of never posted ant thing about it on the web...Like I should not
be doing now..


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In the time it took you to photograph it and think about it U could of cleaned it!!


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medusa wrote:
In the time it took you to photograph it and think about it U could of cleaned it!!

I'll tell you what, you take a permanent marker to your forehead and write dumbass on it then start cleaning, I'll grab my camera and we'll see who gets the job done first...


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Chinchen wrote:
This is where those of us who give a shit can post pictures of stupid stuff others do to trash bouldering areas and make access and respect harder for the rest of us to gain.



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medusa wrote:
In the time it took you to photograph it and think about it U could of cleaned it!!

You should quit while your not even more behind.


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medusa wrote:
In the time it took you to photograph it and think about it U could of cleaned it!!
Any solvent that would remove black spray paint would also likely remove the underlying paint as well and still leave a mess. The stickers would probably need a razor scraper and residue removal with WD40, which in a best case scenario might leave the sign intact, but probably scratches and shading. Add to this the fact that many law enforcement types would view unsolicited "help" as further vandalism or destruction of evidence (these guys can get real creative when dreaming up charges), and it may be unwise for the average well intentioned climber to take any action. At least by photographing, posting, and opening up a dialogue then some good may come from this. Again, it is about raising awareness.


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medusa wrote:
you should of cleaned it up!

Notice the lack of a verb in that sentence fragment? "Should have", not "should of."

And perhaps he could have cleaned it up, but should have is a pretty strong judgement on someone else.


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shockabuku wrote:
medusa wrote:
you should of cleaned it up!

Notice the lack of a verb in that sentence fragment? "Should have", not "should of."

And perhaps he could have cleaned it up, but should have is a pretty strong judgement on someone else.

He never said he didn't clean it up.


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why us there plastic on top of the casket when the water is under neath? Unsure

I don't think that is what they meant buy saying " set a dead man anchor." Crazy


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this is why local cops hate climbers


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scottek67 wrote:
Chinchen wrote:
This is where those of us who give a shit can post pictures of stupid stuff others do to trash bouldering areas and make access and respect harder for the rest of us to gain.
[image]http://i43.tinypic.com/ml2nie.jpg[/image]


is that a 6 footer box with someone in it ?


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edge wrote:
medusa wrote:
In the time it took you to photograph it and think about it U could of cleaned it!!
Any solvent that would remove black spray paint would also likely remove the underlying paint as well and still leave a mess. The stickers would probably need a razor scraper and residue removal with WD40, which in a best case scenario might leave the sign intact, but probably scratches and shading. Add to this the fact that many law enforcement types would view unsolicited "help" as further vandalism or destruction of evidence (these guys can get real creative when dreaming up charges), and it may be unwise for the average well intentioned climber to take any action. At least by photographing, posting, and opening up a dialogue then some good may come from this. Again, it is about raising awareness.

1+ What he said


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This makes me sort of happy that I climb in areas that do not have frequent visitors.


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This is so lame. Though this type of vandalism is normal for California, it's the first time I've seen it done by climbers.

The most I've seen in Washington is spraypaint on boulders (from "420" to Swasticas to huge cock n' balls). It's stupid, hicks and rock crawlin' 4x4'ers got nothing better to do than spraypaint rocks and shoot guns into our crags.


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Here's one...

One of the climbing areas here has a parking lot that is on the grass/dirt right next to a grave yard. One day a couple years ago, the lot was overflowing full, so climbers continued to park further and further back, until some of them were parked on graves.


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I wonder how many "Buttermilk Rd" signs have been stolen and subsequently replaced by the city of Bishop. :P


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edge wrote:
medusa wrote:
In the time it took you to photograph it and think about it U could of cleaned it!!
these guys can get real creative when dreaming up charges
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Especially the PO's in bishop.

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