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Toast_in_the_Machine
Mar 24, 2012, 12:30 PM
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create a new page and therefore a "win". Heck, most of the people over 5k are involved in a high degree of shenanigans.
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beetlebug
Apr 2, 2012, 12:15 PM
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USnavy wrote: mojomonkey wrote: USnavy wrote: So the haters that one star you just to one star you, they are wasting their time, you wont even see their vote.  This post from you is amusing, given how much time you spent one-starring adatesman once upon a time. I was one staring adatesman? No you got it backwards. I dont one star much of anyone, especially now, I have better to things to do
Dontcha just hate it when you're caught in a lie? From another thread where you pretty much admitted it when called out on it:
USnavy wrote: lol adatesman is complaining that I am one staring his posts too much? The real question is why in all hell do you care? Its the Internet dude |
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TonyB3
Apr 2, 2012, 9:51 PM
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USnavy wrote: mojomonkey wrote: USnavy wrote: So the haters that one star you just to one star you, they are wasting their time, you wont even see their vote. This post from you is amusing, given how much time you spent one-starring adatesman once upon a time. I was one staring adatesman? No you got it backwards. I dont one star much of anyone, especially now, I have better to things to do. He on the other hand spent days going through every single post I ever made and one stared them all. Hows that for nerd rage? Kind of a waste of his time considering my browser doesent even load the stars anymore...
No, but you probably use your troll account "thenose" to one star anyone who reveals you as the poser you are. http://www.rockclimbing.com/...gi?username=thenose;
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beetlebug
Apr 3, 2012, 2:06 AM
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TonyB3 wrote: USnavy wrote: mojomonkey wrote: USnavy wrote: So the haters that one star you just to one star you, they are wasting their time, you wont even see their vote. This post from you is amusing, given how much time you spent one-starring adatesman once upon a time. I was one staring adatesman? No you got it backwards. I dont one star much of anyone, especially now, I have better to things to do. He on the other hand spent days going through every single post I ever made and one stared them all. Hows that for nerd rage? Kind of a waste of his time considering my browser doesent even load the stars anymore... No, but you probably use your troll account "thenose" to one star anyone who reveals you as the poser you are. http://www.rockclimbing.com/...gi?username=thenose;
Only one troll account here? Weird. Last I heard he's got at least 4 accounts on Supertopo. Lately he's been using 20_kn, but had been audiobahn_1000, spl_tech and USnavy at various, and often overlapping, times.
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USnavy
Apr 3, 2012, 7:13 AM
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beetlebug wrote: TonyB3 wrote: USnavy wrote: mojomonkey wrote: USnavy wrote: So the haters that one star you just to one star you, they are wasting their time, you wont even see their vote. This post from you is amusing, given how much time you spent one-starring adatesman once upon a time. I was one staring adatesman? No you got it backwards. I dont one star much of anyone, especially now, I have better to things to do. He on the other hand spent days going through every single post I ever made and one stared them all. Hows that for nerd rage? Kind of a waste of his time considering my browser doesent even load the stars anymore... No, but you probably use your troll account "thenose" to one star anyone who reveals you as the poser you are. http://www.rockclimbing.com/...gi?username=thenose;Only one troll account here? Weird. Last I heard he's got at least 4 accounts on Supertopo. Lately he's been using 20_kn, but had been audiobahn_1000, spl_tech and USnavy at various, and often overlapping, times.
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beetlebug
Apr 3, 2012, 1:21 PM
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USnavy wrote: beetlebug wrote: TonyB3 wrote: USnavy wrote: mojomonkey wrote: USnavy wrote: So the haters that one star you just to one star you, they are wasting their time, you wont even see their vote. This post from you is amusing, given how much time you spent one-starring adatesman once upon a time. I was one staring adatesman? No you got it backwards. I dont one star much of anyone, especially now, I have better to things to do. He on the other hand spent days going through every single post I ever made and one stared them all. Hows that for nerd rage? Kind of a waste of his time considering my browser doesent even load the stars anymore... No, but you probably use your troll account "thenose" to one star anyone who reveals you as the poser you are. http://www.rockclimbing.com/...gi?username=thenose;Only one troll account here? Weird. Last I heard he's got at least 4 accounts on Supertopo. Lately he's been using 20_kn, but had been audiobahn_1000, spl_tech and USnavy at various, and often overlapping, times. Says you? You have made 15 posts in the last year and not a single one of them has anything to do with climbing... If ever a troll existed... It is crystal clear your username is just some secondary troll account for someone else. Anyway, this account and your other, TonyB3, can live in KillFile land from here on out.
Says the fact that there are often identical threads from those users here on RC, all of which were yours. Plus searching for threads for one of those users usually turns up threads for the others, and there really aren't all that many people giving out advice on where to climb in Hawaii in one thread while asking noob questions about preparing for their upcoming Yos trip in another. If it walks like a duck and quacks....
Edit: looks like I have the usernames a bit wrong... He's "20_kn", "audiobahn1000", and "spl tech" on Supertopo.
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ncrockclimber
Apr 8, 2012, 3:52 PM
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US Navy may be many things, but a poser he is not. He climbs, a lot, and at a higher level than most of the posters on this site. He also posts a lot of questionable advise and some completely erroneous information. He gets hammered for that, and rightly so. However, to call him a poser identifies you as either extremely biased or extremely ignorant.
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bettle, why do you have so much animosity towards USN? Did he make fun of you on your Facebook page or disagree with something you posted under your other account? Your writing style looks very familiar, like something I saw in the lab...
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TonyB3
Apr 10, 2012, 3:04 PM
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ncrockclimber wrote: US Navy may be many things, but a poser he is not. He climbs, a lot, and at a higher level than most of the posters on this site. He also posts a lot of questionable advise and some completely erroneous information. He gets hammered for that, and rightly so. However, to call him a poser identifies you as either extremely biased or extremely ignorant.
Questionable climbing abilities notwithstanding, what else would you call someone who buys an expensive piece of testing equipment that he has no idea how to use, chart, or process data from, then posts results having no controls, standards, or relevance on three different forums?
Gear manufacturers and international standards committees have paid professionals to assure the safety of accepted gear and practices, and USN's barrage of threads are confusing and unneccesary. He only puts them up to try and pass himself off as some kind of "expert," then bumps them incessantly to keep them on the front page. n00bs respond because by definition they too are clueless. Seasoned climbers respond because his tests are full of holes. Engineers and experts in this sort of testing have noticeably avoided commenting, preferring to avoid the whole shit show.
Add to all that his posting history as "thenose." http://www.rockclimbing.com/...e;sb=post_time;mh=25
I call that a poser.
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ncrockclimber
Apr 10, 2012, 4:16 PM
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TonyB3 wrote: ...what else would you call someone who buys an expensive piece of testing equipment that he has no idea how to use, chart, or process data from, then posts results having no controls, standards, or relevance?
I would call that person a typical poster in "The Lab." In its heyday a few years ago, The Lab was filled with questionable analysis and a few prolific but unqualified users trying to pass themselves off as experts and industry insiders. All USN needs is some elaborate formatting that includes bolding and colored text and he would be right at home.
IMO, USN posting this stuff is not a bad thing. He is going to get hammered for his errors and incorrect analysis, and that is not a bad thing either.
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TonyB3, you seem to have a lot of animosity towards USN. Your 26 posts are very interesting. Could it be that you have posted here before under another user name or two. You seem very similar to Beetle.
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USnavy
Apr 11, 2012, 2:05 PM
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ncrockclimber wrote: TonyB3 wrote: ...what else would you call someone who buys an expensive piece of testing equipment that he has no idea how to use, chart, or process data from, then posts results having no controls, standards, or relevance? IMO, USN posting this stuff is not a bad thing. He is going to get hammered for his errors and incorrect analysis, and that is not a bad thing either.
As far as BS tests in the Lab go, I haven't really seen anyone try to present a properly formatted and executed study of any climbing concept. In fact, I havent even seen a manufacturer do that. Most of the studies on DMM and BD's site are written and executed in a manner similar to the tests published on this website. Most of the people in the Lab just play around with some gear, test some concepts, and post the results. I dont see whats wrong with that, they are not attempting to pass themselves off as MIT grad students conducting industry changing research on an extremely esoteric topic. They are just simply saying, "here is the data, here is the results." Sure, there are some guys in there attempting to make some world changing statement towards some concept they tested in their garage, but most dont.
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j_ung
Apr 12, 2012, 4:01 PM
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USnavy wrote: ncrockclimber wrote: TonyB3 wrote: ...what else would you call someone who buys an expensive piece of testing equipment that he has no idea how to use, chart, or process data from, then posts results having no controls, standards, or relevance? IMO, USN posting this stuff is not a bad thing. He is going to get hammered for his errors and incorrect analysis, and that is not a bad thing either. Incorrect analysis of what? The only study I have conducted so far that attempts to address any type of concept with any depth is the threaded webbing test, which I updated yesterday. And even at that, it’s not really a thesis; it’s an informal test of threaded webbing, and it's not done yet. In the future I am going to continue to try to avoid making any thesis statement in any thread, I am simply going to say “this is what I did, this is how I did it, here are the results.” It is up to the reader to reach his or her own conclusion. As far as BS tests in the Lab go, I haven't really seen anyone try to present a properly formatted and executed study of any climbing concept. In fact, I havent even seen a manufacturer do that. Most of the studies on DMM and BD's site are written and executed in a manner similar to the tests published on this website. Most of the people in the Lab just play around with some gear, test some concepts, and post the results. I dont see whats wrong with that, they are not attempting to pass themselves off as MIT grad students conducting industry changing research on an extremely esoteric topic. They are just simply saying, "here is the data, here is the results." Sure, there are some guys in there attempting to make some world changing statement towards some concept they tested in their garage, but most dont.
Which is exactly what the Lab was intended for.
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TonyB3
Apr 12, 2012, 4:52 PM
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j_ung wrote: USnavy wrote: ncrockclimber wrote: TonyB3 wrote: ...what else would you call someone who buys an expensive piece of testing equipment that he has no idea how to use, chart, or process data from, then posts results having no controls, standards, or relevance? IMO, USN posting this stuff is not a bad thing. He is going to get hammered for his errors and incorrect analysis, and that is not a bad thing either. Incorrect analysis of what? The only study I have conducted so far that attempts to address any type of concept with any depth is the threaded webbing test, which I updated yesterday. And even at that, it’s not really a thesis; it’s an informal test of threaded webbing, and it's not done yet. In the future I am going to continue to try to avoid making any thesis statement in any thread, I am simply going to say “this is what I did, this is how I did it, here are the results.” It is up to the reader to reach his or her own conclusion. As far as BS tests in the Lab go, I haven't really seen anyone try to present a properly formatted and executed study of any climbing concept. In fact, I havent even seen a manufacturer do that. Most of the studies on DMM and BD's site are written and executed in a manner similar to the tests published on this website. Most of the people in the Lab just play around with some gear, test some concepts, and post the results. I dont see whats wrong with that, they are not attempting to pass themselves off as MIT grad students conducting industry changing research on an extremely esoteric topic. They are just simply saying, "here is the data, here is the results." Sure, there are some guys in there attempting to make some world changing statement towards some concept they tested in their garage, but most dont. Which is exactly what the Lab was intended for.
Not a single one of USN's "tests" were posted in the Lab.
They did appear on the Knob, MP, and the Taco in a full on "look at me" assault.
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