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ilikepargo


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I don't think I'd be able to pronounce "Kyrgyzstan" without hurting myself. That doesn't add any points does it?


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40 points, but I use my Mammut rope bag with pride.

My Arcteryx harness is much nicer than the Petzl harnesses I have tried, and I got it for $50!

Even when I am no longer a n00b I will probably still be girth hitching a single sling to my harness to anchor in at the chains.

When I need one I make a stick clip out of a long stick and some tape. Once I am finished I remove the tape and return the stick to nature.

I probably am n00b but don't think I will change any time soon.

Eric

Edited to fix crappy grammar


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No Helmet yet. 0
Damn you tesstarossa 10
Black Diamond 5
I have my grigri2 for belay and atc for rap off anchors 10
I have a mess of draws some BD (live wire and posiwire) and Petzl (ange s) -50?
No Rope bag yet 20
No stick Clip 10
No Girth 0
No REI 0
Red tesstarossa 1

I have a score of 6!!!


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freeclimber92 wrote:
No Helmet yet. 0
Damn you tesstarossa 10
Black Diamond 5
I have my grigri2 for belay and atc for rap off anchors 10
I have a mess of draws some BD (live wire and posiwire) and Petzl (ange s) -50?
No Rope bag yet 20
No stick Clip 10
No Girth 0
No REI 0
Red tesstarossa 1

I have a score of 6!!!

Your score is 106. You don't get the -50 points for your non-logo Petzl draws, plus you get another 50 for thinking that you do.

Jay


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Oh well Im n00b then!


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jt512 wrote:
freeclimber92 wrote:
No Helmet yet. 0
Damn you tesstarossa 10
Black Diamond 5
I have my grigri2 for belay and atc for rap off anchors 10
I have a mess of draws some BD (live wire and posiwire) and Petzl (ange s) -50?
No Rope bag yet 20
No stick Clip 10
No Girth 0
No REI 0
Red tesstarossa 1

I have a score of 6!!!

Your score is 106. You don't get the -50 points for your non-logo Petzl draws, plus you get another 50 for thinking that you do.

Jay

Actually the score should be even higher if those draws have the stock 'bones. The Livewire draws have big 'bones, but the Posiwire and Ange draws both have 'bones too skinny to grab. Depending on how many of these he has, the score could be even more frightening.

I'm going to start running now, just on the outside chance that he is climbing anywhere reasonably near me.


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What happens if the person in questions still has their stuff in a backpack of some sort? Is there something you can do in case you can't see their draws, harness, etc... when they ask you?

Edit: Now that I think about it, that probably wouldn't happen given the scenario, but I'm still curious.


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I just looked over the test again. My score is higher than I thought. AND I just recently bought an REI backpack to carry my stuff. Plus I grabbed a couple of MadRock 'biners to hang a couple of things on the outside of it. They're red.

I can't count that high.

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> Climber wore a helmet on the approach: 25 points

What if I wore my helmet on the approach to keep the sun from burning my balding head? Not having a bad hair day, just a no hair day...


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kf8mo wrote:
> Climber wore a helmet on the approach: 25 points

What if I wore my helmet on the approach to keep the sun from burning my balding head? Not having a bad hair day, just a no hair day...

25 points. No exceptions. Plus 100 points for making this the subject of your first post on this site.

However, as a demonstration of my magnanimity I shall deduct 25 points from your score for your having prefaced a quote with '>' because it suggests you might have some Linux/Unix experience in your background.

Jay


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ilikepargo wrote:
I don't think I'd be able to pronounce "Kyrgyzstan" without hurting myself. That doesn't add any points does it?

Gher_ghe_ghe Zstan

Stan means state or state of Gherghi or Kyrgyz-stan


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jt512 wrote:
kf8mo wrote:
> Climber wore a helmet on the approach: 25 points

What if I wore my helmet on the approach to keep the sun from burning my balding head? Not having a bad hair day, just a no hair day...

25 points. No exceptions. Plus 100 points for making this the subject of your first post on this site.

However, as a demonstration of my magnanimity I shall deduct 25 points from your score for your having prefaced a quote with '>' because it suggests you might have some Linux/Unix experience in your background.

Jay
Be careful Jay - It might also mean they're from Reddit.


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> Be careful Jay - It might also mean they're from Reddit.

Perish the thought! Recovering Solaris sysadmin; now Linux.

I have a BD rope bag, but it's yellow. Anyone know where I can get a red one? ;-)


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I use a red backpack AND red rope bag (black diamond at least). I also have like, 4 different kinds of draws because I lose stuff and am scatterbrained. That and using a gri (go) for belay but atc for rap make me a super noob.
Also arcteryx harnesses are so much better than petzl. Just got one on clearance and am blown away by how much more comfortable it is.

I also climb with a helmet, but only when I don't leave it in the car.


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jt512 wrote:
kf8mo wrote:
> Climber wore a helmet on the approach: 25 points

What if I wore my helmet on the approach to keep the sun from burning my balding head? Not having a bad hair day, just a no hair day...

25 points. No exceptions. Plus 100 points for making this the subject of your first post on this site.

However, as a demonstration of my magnanimity I shall deduct 25 points from your score for your having prefaced a quote with '>' because it suggests you might have some Linux/Unix experience in your background.

Jay

Only 25 for the helmet ON THE APPROACH??? Wow. You're lenient. In the past I used to bring my helmet along, just so that I could stuff my lunch in it. (On the theory that doing so would make it tougher for the Malibu Creek rats to steal my food.) These days I rarely even take it with me. Unless I'm in a place that is raining rocks, I'd never wear it on the approach.


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5 stars for sure

2 - Helmet

10 - Katanas

10 - ATC-XP

10 - No Gri-Gri

5 - BD ropebag (hate it, want the metolius one)

10 - No stick clip (prefer the old fashioned kind when necessary)

Grand Total : 47!


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How many points is a full body harness?


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CrimpyFever wrote:
How many points is a full body harness?

Depends on how they're built, and how you count points -- but at least 4-points.


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If you read every page on this thread:

100 points!

You win!


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jt512 wrote:
You're at the sport crag waiting for your partner to arrive, an unkown climber walks up to you, and asks, "Hey, you want a belay?" You're on the spot. You'd like to get a warm-up burn in, but you don't want to end up on the wrong end of some hapless gymbie's rope. If you hesitate before answering, you risk offense. You must be definitive. It's either got to be, "Sure, that would be great," or "No thanks. I'm still a little hungover." You need a way to size up your potential partner that is systematic, fast, and accurate. In short, you need a

Screening Test for N00bs


Through years of keen observation, I have identified 10 key risk factors for n00bs. Give the climber the number of points indicated for each risk factor. Then sum the points to arrive at the climber's n00b risk score.

Risk factor 1: Helmet
Climber has a helmet at the crag: 2 points
Climber is wearing a helmet belaying: 10 points
Climber wore a helmet on the approach: 25 points
Climber got out of car wearing helmet: 100 points

Risk factor 2: Climbing shoes
Climber's shoes, if not slippers, are made from natural leather: 10 points*
Climber's shoes are made by Mad Rock: 10 points
*Exception 1: Climber's shoes are Firés: -50 points
*Exception 2: Climber's shoes are EBs: -100 points

Risk factor 3: Harness
Any modern harness not made by Petzl: 5 points

Risk factor 4: Belay device(s)
Give the climber 10^n points, where n is the number of belay devices on the climber's harness in excess of one.
In addition:
Does not have a grigri: 10 points
Has a Cinch: 10 points
Has a device whose brand name is "ATC" followed by something: 10 points

Risk factor 5: Quick draws
Anything other than Petzl: 5 points
Dogbones too skinny to grab: 10 points
Petzl logo on dogbones: -50 points

Risk factor 6: Rope bag
Non-Metolius: 5 points
None: 20 points

Risk factor 7: Stick clip
None: 10 points

Risk factor 8: Unnecessary equipment
10^n points, where n is the number of items girth hitched to the climber's harness
10 points for each locking carabiner on the climber's harness not clipped to a belay device
50 points for each quick link on the climber's harness

Risk factor 9: REI
1 point for each appearance of the REI logo on the climber's gear
20 points for each appearance of an REI price tag on the climber's gear
100 points for an REI shopping bag containing the climber's gear

Risk factor 10: The color red
1 point for each red item among the climber's gear, unless the gear is unscratched; then, 10 points.
Red grigri: 15 points

Scoring:
100 or more: Run away.
50–99 points: High n00b probability. Climb with at your own risk.
25–49 points: Possibly a n00b or a visiting trad climber.
0–24 points: Probably an experienced sport climber.
Less than 0: The climber probably knows more about climbing than you do.

In my country:
Sport Climber = Child/n00b
Traditional Climber = loftful

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