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I've been climbing indoor frequently for almost to years and finally get a chance to climb outdoors with an experienced partner. We are going tomorrow, but I see there will be 20-22 mph winds. Will I be blown off the wall? Hah, probably not, but will this make climbing unpleasant?
Also, pants? I wear spandex to the gym, should I wear that + stretchy shorts, or shoot for some looser jeans? Or stretchy jeans? And long sleeve? Short sleeve with a jacket?
Seems silly, but I don't want to be unprepared.


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Just have your mommy dress you in troll clothes.


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That is wildly inappropriate.


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Ask your partner.


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Where will you be (were?) climbing?

My local area has 20+ mph winds for about half of the year. Quality soft-shell clothing, good jeans, just about anything to block the wind, as well as good route choice, are the only things that will help you then.

I've seen 65mph gusts while climbing (caused me to grab a bolt on a 5.4, oh the ignominy!), but in general, you should just stay home on days like that.


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Near the PA/NJ border. Thanks for the one helpful answer.


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erolls wrote:
Just have your mommy dress you in troll clothes.

No, I think what he was looking for was "big boy pants".


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Go to your local outdoor shop, buy the most expensive technical clothing they sell. That should be enough.

An useful answer: wear a good base layer to get sweat away from your body, nothing is worse in windy conditions than a wet cloth sticking to your back. Add a windproof softshell and you're good to go. A hood and a high, tight neck helps. Protect you ears if they are sensitive and there are really bad winds out there.


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you wear spandex to the gym? by all means, you should wear it outside too....


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vontscull wrote:
I've been climbing indoor frequently for almost to years and finally get a chance to climb outdoors with an experienced partner. We are going tomorrow, but I see there will be 20-22 mph winds. Will I be blown off the wall? Hah, probably not, but will this make climbing unpleasant?
Also, pants? I wear spandex to the gym, should I wear that + stretchy shorts, or shoot for some looser jeans? Or stretchy jeans? And long sleeve? Short sleeve with a jacket?
Seems silly, but I don't want to be unprepared.

Ok, here is a real answer.

WIND. Is the wind warm or cold? If cold, wear windstopper clothes. If warm, doesn't matter. The wind has to be very strong to influence your climbing.
PANTS. Wear something that can take some abrasion. Climbing outside (especially on easier routes), you will be in contact with the rock a lot, so spandex is good only on overhanging sport routes. So softshell pants would be a good idea considering the wind.


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vontscull wrote:
That is wildly inappropriate.

Ridiculous.

Take enough clothes to have options from warm to cool. And always a light rain jacket - great for stopping the wind as well.


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vontscull wrote:
I've been climbing indoor frequently for almost to years and finally get a chance to climb outdoors with an experienced partner. We are going tomorrow, but I see there will be 20-22 mph winds. Will I be blown off the wall? Hah, probably not, but will this make climbing unpleasant?
Also, pants? I wear spandex to the gym, should I wear that + stretchy shorts, or shoot for some looser jeans? Or stretchy jeans? And long sleeve? Short sleeve with a jacket?
Seems silly, but I don't want to be unprepared.
OMG.
This delicate little flower can't seem to figure out what to wear outdoors. Whatever will he do when he gets his first hangnail or flapper?


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vontscull wrote:
Near the PA/NJ border. Thanks for the one helpful answer.

the gap?


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Don't mind the bullshit, right?

A lot of companies try to sell Gore Windstopper (or equivalents) as a fully featured soft-shell, but the problem is just like with a rain jacket: the plastic membrane, not the weave of the cloth, is the principal wind-stopping element. Since the membranes need a fairly specific temperature gradient to breathe effectively, and a fairly low rate of vapor transfer, they just don't work for high output activities.

For dry areas, canvas, wool, any natural fiber that's tightly woven works well, provided you can keep it dry. Double knee Carhardt pants are popular out here.

If you can't keep it dry, softshells are the only way to fly. You'd think, based on the windchill charts, that you could just layer on more clothing, a heavier fleece. Unfortunately, if the wind can cut through (as is the case starting at about 20mph), that insulation doesn't really retain heat because the warm air next to your skin gets blown away. Because of this, traditional layering systems (e.g. adjust your insulation by first taking off your shell, then adding or subtracting other layers) are ineffective in windy conditions. You have to choose between adjusting the layer and risking hypothermia, or leaving it be and risking overheating.


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Tip: Buy from Goodwill; rock climbing isn't a fashion show.

Plus, I can almost guarantee there will be a rack there dedicated to old, neon-colored, windstopper (aka windcheater) jackets and pants.


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I live/climb around there too just wear jeans and just the usual. The wind wont be much of an issue unless your multipitch climbing. Plus, its been warm around here.


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If star trek has taught me anything it's not to wear a red shirt.


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Doh!!! I sometimes wear a red shirt. Frown


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