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USnavy


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H.R 347: Free speech is now officaly a felony
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SGWH3kirzg

Next time you want to talk shit about Obama's health care reform act, make sure he is not close enough to hear you.

Everything is a felony now days, the words felony and felon have lost all their meaning. I am surprised getting a DUI is not a felony yet. There are certainly less intrusive and severe crimes that you can commit that are a felony. Do misdemeanors even exist anymore? Crazy


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Well that sucks.


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Sounds very dodgy - but the title of that video (Obama makes free speech a felony). According to this, the bill in question was drafted and introduced by a Republican, and passed 399-3. Forgive me if my understanding of US government isn't up to scratch, but the president has no power to stop a bill passed with that sort of majority, does he?


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Yes, it's called a veto.


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pinktricam wrote:
Yes, it's called a veto.
There is no veto, did you watch the film? The first thing they said was the bill was just signed into law by the president. And the title that runs on the bottom of the video for its entire length says "president signs anti-protest bill"!


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Yes, it's called a veto.

. . . which can be overridden with a 2/3 majority. With numbers like this: 399/402, there is little the president could do to stop it. That is, if he wanted to in the first place.


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USnavy wrote:
pinktricam wrote:
Yes, it's called a veto.
There is no veto, did you watch the film? The first thing they said was the bill was just signed into law by the president. And the title that runs on the bottom of the video for its entire length says "president signs anti-protest bill"!

The title: "Obama Makes Free Speech A Felony" was a bit misleading.


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Phew, I was afraid that it was Officially a felony!


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USnavy wrote:
Everything is a felony now days, the words felony and felon have lost all their meaning. I am surprised getting a DUI is not a felony yet...

Many DUIs are felonies.

Curt


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veganclimber wrote:
pinktricam wrote:
Yes, it's called a veto.

. . . which can be overridden with a 2/3 majority. With numbers like this: 399/402, there is little the president could do to stop it. That is, if he wanted to in the first place.

This. He could have refused to sign it, but that would have been a purely symbolic gesture. Refuse to sign or not, the bill would have become law.

If he had refused to sign it, of course, undoubtedly the media would be trumpeting all the good parts of the bill, and how he's a terrible, authoritarian dictator of a president for trying to hold back such important legislation. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

I have absolutely no idea of his actual stance on this bill, but I know dishonest spinning when I see it.


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blondgecko wrote:
veganclimber wrote:
pinktricam wrote:
Yes, it's called a veto.

. . . which can be overridden with a 2/3 majority. With numbers like this: 399/402, there is little the president could do to stop it. That is, if he wanted to in the first place.


If he had refused to sign it, of course, undoubtedly the media would be trumpeting all the good parts of the bill, .
Well, the news cast would be pretty short then. There are no good aspects to the bill. That bill only directly benefits a very select few, less than .001% of Americans. I think some of our leaders forget the basics regarding the creation of new laws. If the number of people adversely affected by the law significantly exceed the number of people that benefit from the law, the law should more than likely get binned. This law is a textbook example. This law does absolutely nothing to help the general public, it only exists to serve the personal agendas of a select few, and the cost for serving the select few involves constitutional rights violations for every protester in America.


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