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karmiclimber
May 8, 2012, 12:44 PM
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I was perusing the routes database and a climb I was looking at said "CF not recommended." Can someone tell me what this means please? I looked in the climber's dictionary and couldn't find anything...is there anywhere that lists what the abbreviations used in the routes database stand for? Thanks.
Edit to add...I've been wracking my brain and "controlled fall" is the only thing I can come up with? But I'm not sure.
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kovacs69
May 8, 2012, 3:43 PM
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Maybe you should list a link to what you are talking about so we can take a look for ourselves.
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jp_sucks
May 8, 2012, 4:18 PM
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It means be careful, not recommended.
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karmiclimber
May 8, 2012, 4:39 PM
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jp_sucks wrote: It means be careful, not recommended.
It can't mean that, silly. It is a 4 star, popular 5.3.
http://www.rockclimbing.com/routes/North_America/United_States/New_Hampshire/Grafton_County/Rumney/Jimmy_Cliff_left/Clip_a_Dee_Doo_Dah_18972.html
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johnwesely
May 8, 2012, 4:42 PM
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karmiclimber wrote: I was perusing the routes database and a climb I was looking at said "CF not recommended." Can someone tell me what this means please? I looked in the climber's dictionary and couldn't find anything...is there anywhere that lists what the abbreviations used in the routes database stand for? Thanks. Edit to add...I've been wracking my brain and "controlled fall" is the only thing I can come up with? But I'm not sure.
It probably means "Cluster Fuck".
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karmiclimber
May 8, 2012, 4:45 PM
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johnwesely wrote: karmiclimber wrote: I was perusing the routes database and a climb I was looking at said "CF not recommended." Can someone tell me what this means please? I looked in the climber's dictionary and couldn't find anything...is there anywhere that lists what the abbreviations used in the routes database stand for? Thanks. Edit to add...I've been wracking my brain and "controlled fall" is the only thing I can come up with? But I'm not sure. It probably means "Cluster Fuck".
LOL. Something tells me it is going to be a cluster fuck, as I said above it is a popular (multipitch) 5.3. It probably is going to have a queue line and everything. *sigh*
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May 8, 2012, 4:52 PM
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karmiclimber wrote: johnwesely wrote: karmiclimber wrote: I was perusing the routes database and a climb I was looking at said "CF not recommended." Can someone tell me what this means please? I looked in the climber's dictionary and couldn't find anything...is there anywhere that lists what the abbreviations used in the routes database stand for? Thanks. Edit to add...I've been wracking my brain and "controlled fall" is the only thing I can come up with? But I'm not sure. It probably means "Cluster Fuck". LOL. Something tells me it is going to be a cluster fuck, as I said above it is a popular (multipitch) 5.3. It probably is going to have a queue line and everything. *sigh*
During the week, it might not be such a clusterf*ck And your daughter might enjoy it. I believe that there have been 3yolds who had climbed it. Otherwise... yeah, avoid it.
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jp_sucks
May 8, 2012, 4:53 PM
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It means that the rappel route is not recommended and to be careful.
The climb is a great one, but you should do the walk off after and not rappel.
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karmiclimber
May 8, 2012, 5:01 PM
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Thanks Lena! I think it would be a good climb for my daughter...easy...AND I can belay her from the belay station while her Dad is on the ground with her. Perfect.
jp_sucks wrote: It means that the rappel route is not recommended and to be careful. The climb is a great one, but you should do the walk off after and not rappel.
Okay. So, how did you get "don't rappel" from "CF" ? I'm Ceriously conFused.
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karmiclimber
May 8, 2012, 5:07 PM
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Oh duh, I see it now. Nevermind. Thanks!!
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blueeyedclimber
May 8, 2012, 6:14 PM
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karmiclimber wrote: jp_sucks wrote: It means that the rappel route is not recommended and to be careful. The climb is a great one, but you should do the walk off after and not rappel. Okay. So, how did you get "don't rappel" from "CF" ? I'm Ceriously conFused.
Because it immediately follows the rappel description. It means that, because of it's popularity, it will be a Cluster Fuck if you try to rappel. Walk off instead.
Got it now? 
Josh
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karmiclimber
May 8, 2012, 7:16 PM
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blueeyedclimber wrote: karmiclimber wrote: jp_sucks wrote: It means that the rappel route is not recommended and to be careful. The climb is a great one, but you should do the walk off after and not rappel. Okay. So, how did you get "don't rappel" from "CF" ? I'm Ceriously conFused. Because it immediately follows the rappel description. It means that, because of it's popularity, it will be a Cluster Fuck if you try to rappel. Walk off instead. Got it now? Josh
Yes. Watch out! *Slow climber at play* 
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