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porcelainsunset
Jun 1, 2012, 12:07 AM
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Yes, lubricating a biner with WD-40 is a bad idea. Graphite is preferred. I know this. However, I was not the one to lube said biners with WD-40. Just started a new job directing an outdoor adventure program at a bad ass camp on the east coast and somebody in maintenance or maybe even a misinformed former director attempted to lube the biners with WD-40, which of course has attracted dirt and dust and now they are sticky icky icky like shit from Humboldt. So, what do I use to clean them so I can graphite the biners. My assumption is to use a solvent such as paint thinner or denatured alcohol, but i want to make sure before I further fuck them up. Thoughts?
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billcoe_
Jun 1, 2012, 12:29 AM
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porcelainsunset wrote: Yes, lubricating a biner with WD-40 is a bad idea. Graphite is preferred. I know this. However, I was not the one to lube said biners with WD-40. Just started a new job directing an outdoor adventure program at a bad ass camp on the east coast and somebody in maintenance or maybe even a misinformed former director attempted to lube the biners with WD-40, which of course has attracted dirt and dust and now they are sticky icky icky like shit from Humboldt. So, what do I use to clean them so I can graphite the biners. My assumption is to use a solvent such as paint thinner or denatured alcohol, but i want to make sure before I further fuck them up. Thoughts?
NO paint thinner needed. Formula 409 is an adequate degreaser and it will cause no issues if you get it on the slings or soft goods. Just rinse it off. Dawn brand dish soap as well.
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marc801
Jun 1, 2012, 12:52 AM
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A good kitchen grease cutting dishwashing soap and water is all you need.
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shimanilami
Jun 1, 2012, 6:28 AM
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Run it through the dishwasher.
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Gmburns2000
Jun 3, 2012, 10:15 PM
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marc801 wrote: shimanilami wrote: Run it through the dishwasher. I don't know about that. Couldn't that cause microfractures? 
I'd be more worried about the hot water melting parts of it in unseen ways. 
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shockabuku
Jun 4, 2012, 2:28 AM
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Gmburns2000 wrote: marc801 wrote: shimanilami wrote: Run it through the dishwasher. I don't know about that. Couldn't that cause microfractures? I'd be more worried about the hot water melting parts of it in unseen ways.
Are you fucking serious?
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moose_droppings
Jun 4, 2012, 4:25 AM
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WD40 works fine for loosening gummed up gunk and pine tar in your biners.
Then use Dawn dishwashing soap. It's one of the better ones for breaking down grease and oil.
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mattyp
Jun 10, 2012, 10:30 PM
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FWIW, Freedom of the Hills, 7th ed. page 154 recommends lubing with WD-40 or lightweight oil and then dipping the lubed carabiner in boiling water for 20 seconds to remove the lubricant and dirt.
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porthillsclimber
Jun 11, 2012, 12:52 AM
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soak the biners in white spirits (the same stuff that you use in a primus or msr stove) this should break down the wd-40 and it evaporates very quickly so won't leave any residue or smell like mineral turpentine or methylated spirits might.
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gunkiemike
Jun 12, 2012, 2:10 AM
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No such thing as "mineral terpentine". Terpentine = plant-sourced terpenes. "Mineral" denotes petroleum origin.
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porthillsclimber
Jun 12, 2012, 2:40 AM
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In reply to: No such thing as "mineral terpentine". Terpentine = plant-sourced terpenes. "Mineral" denotes petroleum origin.
I think you would have found there was if you had typed it into google.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mineral_turpentine
Mineral turpentine is often used to clean oil based paint off brushes.
It would definitely deal to wd-40 but you would then have to wash the biners a couple of times to get rid of the smell.
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majid_sabet
Jun 12, 2012, 5:27 AM
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wd40 is fine however, you must blow the oil off with air otherwise, it will collect dirt and oil partials may contact soft material like runner and harness etc.
do not clean in dish washer, the high temp with tap water is corrosive over time on aircraft quality aluminum which is very much the same material as carabiners
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gunkiemike
Jun 12, 2012, 10:04 AM
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porthillsclimber wrote: In reply to: No such thing as "mineral terpentine". Terpentine = plant-sourced terpenes. "Mineral" denotes petroleum origin. I think you would have found there was if you had typed it into google. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mineral_turpentine .
Wikipedia doesn't supplant reality. "Mineral terpentine" is about as real as "Non-dairy yogurt" and "fat-free mayonnaise". Those products are out there too.
But back on topic, any light solvent, MT included, would be safe to use on biners to remove gumminess.
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porthillsclimber
Jun 12, 2012, 10:44 AM
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In reply to: Wikipedia doesn't supplant reality. "Mineral terpentine" is about as real as "Non-dairy yogurt" and "fat-free mayonnaise". Those products are out there too.
I'm not suggesting Wikipedia supplants reality. I was just showing that there is a product called mineral turpentine that is a real product. As you seemed like you were saying that it was not a real product.
anyway as a said before mineral turpentine will leave a smell. I find white spirits (the stuff you use in a primus) works well and then evaporates without leaving a smell behind.
(This post was edited by porthillsclimber on Jun 12, 2012, 10:45 AM)
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