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pinktricam
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So true!
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chadnsc
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pinktricam
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LMAO!
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chadnsc
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Pinky shooting at an approaching bear.
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squierbypetzl
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chadnsc wrote: [image]http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web05/2012/7/16/10/anigif_enhanced-buzz-12064-1342449218-24.gif[/image] Pinky shooting at an approaching bear.
Depends on the bear. Koala bear, black bear, Kodiak, or Grizzly?
I thought y´all might appreciate this:
http://www.youtube.com/...ture=player_embedded
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chadnsc
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Cool vid.
Pinky would say that he could do the same thing with a .22 long as it's all about shot placement. 
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pinktricam
Jul 20, 2012, 11:42 AM
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This happened last week here in Central Florida. Here's the story and the surveillance video:
[71 YO] Customer stops stick-up at Ocala Internet cafe
It's a classic example of a responsible citizen thwarting a couple of gangsta wannabees with his own legally concealed firearm. A .380, nonetheless! It looks like the Ruger LCP I usually have on me.
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squierbypetzl
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pinktricam wrote: This happened last week here in Central Florida. Here's the story and the surveillance video: [71 YO] Customer stops stick-up at Ocala Internet cafe It's a classic example of a responsible citizen thwarting a couple of gangsta wannabees with his own legally concealed firearm. A .380, nonetheless! It looks like the Ruger LCP I usually have on me.
Excessive force IMO. Shooting an unarmed attempted-thief in the back while he´s running away may be a natural reaction, but it´s a slippery slope, legally.
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pinktricam
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I respectfully disagree. Those idiots had everything coming to them they got. They got off very lucky, actually (lead in the ass of one and a flesh wound on the arm of the other).
After reviewing the evidence, the Marion County Sheriff's Office felt that Mr. Williams used justifiable force and would face no charges.
Stand Your Ground, baby, Stand Your fecking Ground to punks like this.
Edited to add: it was God's Plan ;)
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squierbypetzl
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Thanks for disagreeing respectfully. 
In any case, the one lesson I got from that attempted robbery was that a .380 isn´t enough to stop an attack quickly. Guess a shotgun is the way to go for me.
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veganclimber
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pinktricam wrote: I respectfully disagree. Those idiots had everything coming to them they got. They got off very lucky, actually (lead in the ass of one and a flesh wound on the arm of the other). After reviewing the evidence, the Marion County Sheriff's Office felt that Mr. Williams used justifiable force and would face no charges. Stand Your Ground, baby, Stand Your fecking Ground to punks like this. Edited to add: it was God's Plan ;)
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pinktricam
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squierbypetzl wrote: Thanks for disagreeing respectfully. In any case, the one lesson I got from that attempted robbery was that a .380 isn´t enough to stop an attack quickly. Guess a shotgun is the way to go for me.
A long gun is great for home/auto defense and I highly recommend one for such purposes, but it's difficult to carry as a concealed firearm. Nobody will even know you're carrying the .380 (though my .40 cal G23 is my preferred carry gun when I can comfortably do so.)
Also, remember: it's all about shot placement...I'm sure even that poseur chad will wholeheartedly agree with that!
But, who knows, maybe the old timer actually was shooting at their ass...LOL.
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chadnsc
Jul 20, 2012, 2:01 PM
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Oh pinky, you're such a poser and you don't even know it.
How sad.
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pinktricam
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squierbypetzl
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Saw this on another site http://kyleroyerknives.com/. Damn that man can make a great knife (watched his videos... exhausting process but after he´s done forging and grinding he chops a couple of 2x4s with the knives and can still shave the hair off of his arms with ´em).
Somebody speaking up to the police about how weird their friend/neighbor was acting might have also prevented that tragedy.
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chadnsc
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pinktricam wrote: [img]http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/c0.0.301.280/292696_414885391862799_560961764_n.jpg[/img] [image]http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/557300_240414309413475_758003884_n.jpg[/image]
I suppose it is possible that a single armed person like yourself carrying say a .380 auto (your professed carry weapon) with a spare mag (16 rounds), night sights, and a tac light (assuming best case scenario) could take down a man with full body armor, six firearms, 300+ rounds of ammo in a dark, smoke filled, crowded theater before more than one or two people where shot.
I suppose a person could be close enough to overcome the 20 yard effective range of your carry weapon to deliver a well placed triple tap the the attackers head without drawing attention to yourself and getting shot.
Then again neither of us has EVER been in a situation like this and can't have any idea what it would be like so I suppose it could be possible however unlikely that one person with a concealed weapon could of stopped this from happening. It dose seem pretty damn unlikely though.
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pinktricam
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pinktricam wrote: [img]http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/557501_10150963262730954_334061244_n.jpg[/img]
Of course, because having more people shooting in that scenario would certainly have eliminated injuries.
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pinktricam
Jul 22, 2012, 2:11 PM
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Here ya go, for the internet internet challenged: http://gunowners.org/sk0802.htm
The established facts are endless. That means I can go on and on.
Keep in mind, this fecking disturbed, cowardly individual immediately and meekly surrendered when met with equal force. There's no doubt in my mind that the outcome may have been different had he met one or two shooters firing back at him.
PS:chaddy, we have no proof that you're nothing other than the rancher with a "big hat, but no cattle."
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chadnsc
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pinktricam wrote: Here ya go, for the internet internet challenged: http://gunowners.org/sk0802.htm The established facts are endless. That means I can go on and on. Keep in mind, this fecking disturbed, cowardly individual immediately and meekly surrendered when met with equal force. There's no doubt in my mind that the outcome may have been different had he met one or two shooters firing back at him. PS:chaddy, we have no proof that you're nothing other than the rancher with a "big hat, but no cattle."
I don't disagree with the info you linked (I do however have to consider the slant by the 'publisher' of that data). However there is NOTHING in that list of information about a CCP stopping a mass public shooting.
In fact the results of this study as shown in the linked video actually show that having a firearm in a group shooting situation is of little help.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QjZY3WiO9s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLN6_s66wTg
Oh and pinky I think it odd that you feel the need to constantly try and show that you're the real deal when it comes to firearms and the use of deadly force. You also have a peculiar obsession with me and trying to discredit my experiences with firearms.
What's even more odd is that for some reason you think that by showing pictures of your firearms, animals you've shot, and paper targets you've hit make you an authority on the subject. 
Edit to add:
I understand that it's comforting to think that carrying a firearm we as a people have a means to stop such a tragedy. However none of us where there and as such all we can to is speculate. All we can do is post options, nothing more.
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I have to admit considerable surprise that nobody in the audience was carrying. This is the suburbs of Denver we're talking about, which is just a notch below Phoenix in terms of affluent white people packing heat. When I lived in Highlands Ranch, I passed 3 vehicles with "I don't call 911" bumper stickers in the 1/10 of a mile it took for me to go from my sister's house to a road not lined with houses, on my way to work every day.
Aurora is not much different, although it is a bit less affluent, so the desire to have a self-defense firearm is a bit more justifiable.
What I infer from the total absence of shooters in the audience is that (1) there were no people with CCW permits in the audience, (2) the people with CCW permits weren't carrying, or (3) the people carrying in the audience did not return fire.
2 or 3 seem most likely, and as chad pointed out, it would take some kind of handgun expert with ice water for blood to successfully take this guy down without loss of life.
I find 1 to be almost impossibly unlikely unless the Columbine graduates, or friends of Columbine graduates, or relatives of Columbine graduates in the audience decided that guns in their house were far more dangerous than the odd psychopath at the movies.
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pinktricam
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You forgot about '4', the cinema is a gun free zone. Which translates: only the criminals have guns.
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chadnsc
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pinktricam wrote: You forgot about '4', the cinema is a gun free zone. Which translates: only the criminals have guns.
Not so.
You've stated several times to carrying in a 'gun free zone' simply because it was your right to do so.
Based on Aurora's population and number of CCP issued their should have been at least 2 people in the theater that could carry legally. As petsfed stated and you've reinforced their is a pretty good chance that people would ignore the 'no weapons' sign on the front door.
Population of Aurora: 325,078
CCP issued for Auroar: 4,803
Number of people in theater: 150
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veganclimber wrote: pinktricam wrote: I respectfully disagree. Those idiots had everything coming to them they got. They got off very lucky, actually (lead in the ass of one and a flesh wound on the arm of the other). After reviewing the evidence, the Marion County Sheriff's Office felt that Mr. Williams used justifiable force and would face no charges. Stand Your Ground, baby, Stand Your fecking Ground to punks like this. Edited to add: it was God's Plan ;) [Inline "images.jpg"]
Who wouldn't jesus shoot.
If captain vigilantepants really had the balls to take these 'punks' on, he could have done it when they weren't running away.
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