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chadnsc
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I beilve you want to say: 'The AR15 platform is a . . ." The AR-15 you have pictured there (5.56mm / .223) is a poor choice for hunting, target shooting, and in the long gun configuration you have pictured a poor home defense weapon.
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pinktricam
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dr_feelgood wrote: pinktricam wrote: I respectfully disagree. Those idiots had everything coming to them they got. They got off very lucky, actually (lead in the ass of one and a flesh wound on the arm of the other). After reviewing the evidence, the Marion County Sheriff's Office felt that Mr. Williams used justifiable force and would face no charges. Stand Your Ground, baby, Stand Your fecking Ground to punks like this. Edited to add: it was God's Plan ;) If captain vigilantepants really had the balls to take these 'punks' on, he could have done it when they weren't running away. Actually, I think he found the cojones you're missing.
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pinktricam wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: pinktricam wrote: I respectfully disagree. Those idiots had everything coming to them they got. They got off very lucky, actually (lead in the ass of one and a flesh wound on the arm of the other). After reviewing the evidence, the Marion County Sheriff's Office felt that Mr. Williams used justifiable force and would face no charges. Stand Your Ground, baby, Stand Your fecking Ground to punks like this. Edited to add: it was God's Plan ;) If captain vigilantepants really had the balls to take these 'punks' on, he could have done it when they weren't running away. Actually, I think he found the cojones you're missing. Yessah, it takes a whole lot of balls to shoot someone in the back.
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pinktricam
Jul 23, 2012, 6:13 PM
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chadnsc wrote: I beilve you want to say: 'The AR15 platform is a . . ." The AR-15 you have pictured there (5.56mm / .223) is a poor choice for hunting, target shooting, and in the long gun configuration you have pictured a poor home defense weapon. Not sure about the AR-15 you have/don't have/plan to have/or won't ever have, but I'm picking off clays set into the berm at 100 yards with iron sights pretty damn consistently. With the right load and optics, it would also do fine in the field on medium to medium large sized game. I will grant you that I won't use it for the defense of my home, though. But that's only because, living in a condo, I have far more "neighbor friendly" firearms that are unlikely to injure the innocent. However, if I lived in a rural setting with the accompanying population density, my Colt AR-15 would make a perfectly acceptable home defense firearm.
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chadnsc
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pinktricam wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: pinktricam wrote: I respectfully disagree. Those idiots had everything coming to them they got. They got off very lucky, actually (lead in the ass of one and a flesh wound on the arm of the other). After reviewing the evidence, the Marion County Sheriff's Office felt that Mr. Williams used justifiable force and would face no charges. Stand Your Ground, baby, Stand Your fecking Ground to punks like this. Edited to add: it was God's Plan ;) If captain vigilantepants really had the balls to take these 'punks' on, he could have done it when they weren't running away. Actually, I think he found the cojones you're missing. Funny that you say that to a man who's served in the military and been in combat. Wait a minute, how does your shooting holes in paper targets give you the authority and experience to pass judgement on doc's level of bravery in combat?
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pinktricam
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carabiner96 wrote: pinktricam wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: pinktricam wrote: I respectfully disagree. Those idiots had everything coming to them they got. They got off very lucky, actually (lead in the ass of one and a flesh wound on the arm of the other). After reviewing the evidence, the Marion County Sheriff's Office felt that Mr. Williams used justifiable force and would face no charges. Stand Your Ground, baby, Stand Your fecking Ground to punks like this. Edited to add: it was God's Plan ;) If captain vigilantepants really had the balls to take these 'punks' on, he could have done it when they weren't running away. Actually, I think he found the cojones you're missing. Yessah, it takes a whole lot of balls to shoot someone in the back. Yep, just a little bit more balls than it does to come into a place wearing a St. Tray hoodie and packing a .45 expecting an easy score on a defenseless crowd. Pffft...you're such a putz who has not the slightest concept of a tactical ploy. Would you feel the same way if someone had gotten the same drop on the nutjob in Aurora, bonehead?
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pinktricam
Jul 23, 2012, 6:36 PM
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chadnsc wrote: pinktricam wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: pinktricam wrote: I respectfully disagree. Those idiots had everything coming to them they got. They got off very lucky, actually (lead in the ass of one and a flesh wound on the arm of the other). After reviewing the evidence, the Marion County Sheriff's Office felt that Mr. Williams used justifiable force and would face no charges. Stand Your Ground, baby, Stand Your fecking Ground to punks like this. Edited to add: it was God's Plan ;) If captain vigilantepants really had the balls to take these 'punks' on, he could have done it when they weren't running away. Actually, I think he found the cojones you're missing. Funny that you say that to a man who's served in the military and been in combat. Wait a minute, how does your shooting holes in paper targets give you the authority and experience to pass judgement on doc's level of bravery in combat? Because "being in the miitary" has apparently not made him much brighter. You'd better check your glucose level chaddy, 'cause almost all of your posts in this thread would lead one to believe you need to either drink a glass of orange juice, or give yourself a shot of insulin immediately.
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chadnsc
Jul 23, 2012, 6:42 PM
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pinktricam wrote: chadnsc wrote: I beilve you want to say: 'The AR15 platform is a . . ." The AR-15 you have pictured there (5.56mm / .223) is a poor choice for hunting, target shooting, and in the long gun configuration you have pictured a poor home defense weapon. Not sure about the AR-15 you have/don't have/plan to have/or won't ever have, but I'm picking off clays set into the berm at 100 yards with iron sights pretty damn consistently. With the right load and optics, it would also do fine in the field on medium to medium large sized game. I will grant you that I won't use it for the defense of my home, though. But that's only because, living in a condo, I have far more "neighbor friendly" firearms that are unlikely to injure the innocent. However, if I lived in a rural setting with the accompanying population density, my Colt AR-15 would make a perfectly acceptable home defense firearm. I've shot plenty of 5.56mm / .223 AR's. I probably run around 10,000 rounds through over a dozen models and configurations of the AR platform. Just because you can hit clay's at a 100 yards with it doesn't make it a good target rifle. I can easily do the same with a Ruger 10/22 with factory iron sights. Generally the firearm is always way more accurate than the shooter. As for the AR's use as hunting rifle that's a personal choice. I'm a very good shot and wouldn't try to hunt anything larger than say a coyote with a 5.56mm / .223. I just don't think the round has the energy and penetration to take down anything larger cleanly. I'm sure you'll bring up shot placement yet again but think for a moment if you'd try and take down that pig you posted up pics of with a 5.56mm / .223. That pig is for certain medium sized game. Finally you completely misinterpreted my comment about the usefulness of the AR platform in a home defense situation. It's not the round that is the problem, it's the configuration, weapon length, and ear drum rupturing report of the AR platform. Sure the AR platform can be very useful but it takes a lot of training and money to build and learn to use one well for home defense. (That's why I don't own one) Now the 5.56mm / .223 round can works very well against unarmored personnel. The round performs better than 12 guage buckshot or a hollow point 9mm in the categories of effective range, energy transfer, wound channel size, cavition, and not over penetrating the target.
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chadnsc
Jul 23, 2012, 6:45 PM
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pinktricam wrote: chadnsc wrote: pinktricam wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: pinktricam wrote: I respectfully disagree. Those idiots had everything coming to them they got. They got off very lucky, actually (lead in the ass of one and a flesh wound on the arm of the other). After reviewing the evidence, the Marion County Sheriff's Office felt that Mr. Williams used justifiable force and would face no charges. Stand Your Ground, baby, Stand Your fecking Ground to punks like this. Edited to add: it was God's Plan ;) If captain vigilantepants really had the balls to take these 'punks' on, he could have done it when they weren't running away. Actually, I think he found the cojones you're missing. Funny that you say that to a man who's served in the military and been in combat. Wait a minute, how does your shooting holes in paper targets give you the authority and experience to pass judgement on doc's level of bravery in combat? Because "being in the miitary" has apparently not made him much brighter. You'd better check your glucose level chaddy, 'cause almost all of your posts in this thread would lead one to believe you need to either drink a glass of orange juice, or give yourself a shot of insulin immediately. Come back when you can come up with a better taunt pinky. Your trolling skills are slipping.
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pinktricam
Jul 23, 2012, 6:55 PM
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chadnsc wrote: Come back when you can come up with a better taunt pinky. Your trolling skills are slipping. It wasn't a taunt. It was sound medical advice.
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Jul 23, 2012, 8:28 PM
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Quite a thing, the internet. You know how L.E. agencies send people online to i.d. potential threats? It would be awesome if the both of you were actually cops from different agencies, and you were each portaying a persona trying to get the other to crack.
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pinktricam
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Sí, tu tambien puedes estar trabajando para los Federales ;)
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pinktricam wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: pinktricam wrote: I respectfully disagree. Those idiots had everything coming to them they got. They got off very lucky, actually (lead in the ass of one and a flesh wound on the arm of the other). After reviewing the evidence, the Marion County Sheriff's Office felt that Mr. Williams used justifiable force and would face no charges. Stand Your Ground, baby, Stand Your fecking Ground to punks like this. Edited to add: it was God's Plan ;) If captain vigilantepants really had the balls to take these 'punks' on, he could have done it when they weren't running away. Actually, I think he found the cojones you're missing. Insulting the bravery of a combat veteran? You've really jumped the shark now. STFU, chickenhawk. (I miss DMT)
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scrapedape wrote: pinktricam wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: pinktricam wrote: I respectfully disagree. Those idiots had everything coming to them they got. They got off very lucky, actually (lead in the ass of one and a flesh wound on the arm of the other). After reviewing the evidence, the Marion County Sheriff's Office felt that Mr. Williams used justifiable force and would face no charges. Stand Your Ground, baby, Stand Your fecking Ground to punks like this. Edited to add: it was God's Plan ;) If captain vigilantepants really had the balls to take these 'punks' on, he could have done it when they weren't running away. Actually, I think he found the cojones you're missing. Insulting the bravery of a combat veteran? You've really jumped the shark now. STFU, chickenhawk. (I miss DMT) For those that have missed the obvious, I'm questioning his poor tactical evaluation of a lethal situation that was handled quite well by the old timer.
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pinktricam wrote: With the right load and optics, it would also do fine in the field on medium to medium large sized game. You know, I'm just not seeing this one. I was raised with the ethic of single-shot hunting: if I couldn't place my shot effectively enough to kill with a single bullet, I shouldn't take the shot. I just cannot imagine a hot enough load for a .223 to bring down a deer or small elk that doesn't require you to stalk as effectively as if you had a black powder rifle or a bow. The smallest anyone in my family hunted with was a .270, and my dad abandoned that since he needed a scope for good enough shot placement, and the timber was too thick to make that practical. I've never understood the popularity of the AR-15 platform for anything but plinking and killing people.
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petsfed wrote: pinktricam wrote: With the right load and optics, it would also do fine in the field on medium to medium large sized game. You know, I'm just not seeing this one. I was raised with the ethic of single-shot hunting: if I couldn't place my shot effectively enough to kill with a single bullet, I shouldn't take the shot. I just cannot imagine a hot enough load for a .223 to bring down a deer or small elk that doesn't require you to stalk as effectively as if you had a black powder rifle or a bow. The smallest anyone in my family hunted with was a .270, and my dad abandoned that since he needed a scope for good enough shot placement, and the timber was too thick to make that practical. I've never understood the popularity of the AR-15 platform for anything but plinking and killing people. +1
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pinktricam wrote: chadnsc wrote: Come back when you can come up with a better taunt pinky. Your trolling skills are slipping. It wasn't a taunt. It was sound medical advice. So now in addition to being a combat specialist and firearm expert you're also an endocrinologist? Enplanes why you're such a poor shot, you simply don't have the time to get out on the range.
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pinktricam wrote: scrapedape wrote: pinktricam wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: pinktricam wrote: I respectfully disagree. Those idiots had everything coming to them they got. They got off very lucky, actually (lead in the ass of one and a flesh wound on the arm of the other). After reviewing the evidence, the Marion County Sheriff's Office felt that Mr. Williams used justifiable force and would face no charges. Stand Your Ground, baby, Stand Your fecking Ground to punks like this. Edited to add: it was God's Plan ;) If captain vigilantepants really had the balls to take these 'punks' on, he could have done it when they weren't running away. Actually, I think he found the cojones you're missing. Insulting the bravery of a combat veteran? You've really jumped the shark now. STFU, chickenhawk. (I miss DMT) For those that have missed the obvious, I'm questioning his poor tactical evaluation of a lethal situation that was handled quite well by the old timer. You know, pinky? I actually agree with you on one point. My former service gives me little credibility in discussions of tactical wankery. All I ever did was violently oppress the population of a small portion of the population of a global-south nation during my time as an occupier. If you want to draw the analogy to the recent colorado tragedy, I was the guy with the assault rifle, body armor, and arsenal, and they were the movie-goers. It really lends me no credence to discuss what I would do if I were armed, old and obese, and some black kid with a gun was running away from me. I was analyzing the situation in a way that you may be unfamiliar with: the ethical framework. Was it ethical for captain vigilantepants to shoot the other guy in the back while he was running away by calling it a defense of property? I don't think so. Was captain vigilantepants justified in unilaterally taking a human life when his was no longer threatened? Is it a miscarriage of justice that he is not in prison? What you and your fellow idiotic right wing thugs do while discussing these situations is masturbation. The images you post are lolcats for people with a misguided hero complex, and by endlessly monday-morning-quarterbacking these situations, you attempt to justify your inherent racism, classism, misogynism, and violence fetishism. I'm sure you and your fellow troglodytes are glued to fox news, waiting for any break in the news of the tragedy in colorado; it allows you to primp your petty ego with statements to the effect of "If only me and my trusty schlong extender with 15 round magazine were in that (insert site of recent horrific tragedy), stuff woulda been different." Try not to cum on your keyboard.
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chadnsc wrote: petsfed wrote: pinktricam wrote: With the right load and optics, it would also do fine in the field on medium to medium large sized game. You know, I'm just not seeing this one. I was raised with the ethic of single-shot hunting: if I couldn't place my shot effectively enough to kill with a single bullet, I shouldn't take the shot. I just cannot imagine a hot enough load for a .223 to bring down a deer or small elk that doesn't require you to stalk as effectively as if you had a black powder rifle or a bow. The smallest anyone in my family hunted with was a .270, and my dad abandoned that since he needed a scope for good enough shot placement, and the timber was too thick to make that practical. I've never understood the popularity of the AR-15 platform for anything but plinking and killing people. +1 Can ya just feel the moral superiority ooozing? One of my faves...
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my favorite, started as a Walmart Special, Ruger 10-22. The scope is the only compromise item, that's a TacSol steel sleeved aluminum bull barrel, very accurate. It is not polished in this shot but still looks nice. A left hand safety, adjustable trigger, extended magazine release, ...
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pinktricam wrote: chadnsc wrote: petsfed wrote: pinktricam wrote: With the right load and optics, it would also do fine in the field on medium to medium large sized game. You know, I'm just not seeing this one. I was raised with the ethic of single-shot hunting: if I couldn't place my shot effectively enough to kill with a single bullet, I shouldn't take the shot. I just cannot imagine a hot enough load for a .223 to bring down a deer or small elk that doesn't require you to stalk as effectively as if you had a black powder rifle or a bow. The smallest anyone in my family hunted with was a .270, and my dad abandoned that since he needed a scope for good enough shot placement, and the timber was too thick to make that practical. I've never understood the popularity of the AR-15 platform for anything but plinking and killing people. +1 Can ya just feel the moral superiority ooozing? One of my faves... [image]http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/313987_456870917679471_858038265_n.jpg[/image] Pinky I understand that you're handicapped by stupidity, inexperience, and emotional immaturity so I won't think that you're a sadomasochist who enjoys wounding an animal with an under powered rifle.
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scott.nearing wrote: my favorite, started as a Walmart Special, Ruger 10-22. The scope is the only compromise item, that's a TacSol steel sleeved aluminum bull barrel, very accurate. It is not polished in this shot but still looks nice. A left hand safety, adjustable trigger, extended magazine release, ...  Nice. I like the laminated camo stock. This is a classic 22lr rifle. I put down a deposit on my own just last week. I'm getting the Takedown model. Can't wait for it to arrive! Here's a short youtube review on it: http://www.youtube.com/...youtube_gdata_player
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