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It's believed the pair fell about 20-25 metres before hitting the terrain, but fell about 100 metres total, said Brideaux.

from another report

It isn’t clear what precipiated the fall. Both the man and woman appeared to be outfitted with gear for roped-in climbing, Mr. Brideaux said, although it isn’t clear whether they were both on the cliff at once or whether one was on the ground belaying the other.


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They were rappelling together on a single rope,” Freer said. “It was a rappelling accident. They were coming down the mountain on an anchored rope. The rope was anchored up top.”

Read more: http://www.calgaryherald.com/life/rock+climbers+died+fall+cliff+were+Calgary+workers/7008920/story.html#ixzz229E9v3Br


http://www.calgarysun.com/...skis-climbing-mishap


nvestigators said they are piecing together the final moments of the two Calgary climbers.

Sidhu and his female climbing partner — whose name has not been released — had just completed a climb of 150 to 180 metres and were preparing to rappel back to the ground.

Using a technique that climbers call “simul-rappelling,” the pair were descending using a rope threaded through a single anchor, each climber acting as a counterweight to the other.

“One person managed to come off the rope during the rappel,” said Kananaskis public safety specialist Mike Koppang.

Read more: http://www.calgaryherald.com/health/Friends+family+mourn+loss+Calgary+athlete+Canmore+climbing+accident/7014040/story.html#ixzz22DryYAJX


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This occured at Heart Creek area near Canmore (west of Calgary).

Two climberrs in their 20s, have not yet been identified by the RCMP.

Thoughts and prayers go out to their family....


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I wonder if they were climbing a sport route or rappelling from the actual west side of heart. I think their is only one multi pitch route in hart this long (amphitheatre wall).

my hart goes to their families.


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My thoughts and prayers to loved ones.


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wongpong wrote:
I wonder if they were climbing a sport route or rappelling from the actual west side of heart. I think their is only one multi pitch route in hart this long (amphitheatre wall).

my hart goes to their families.

what are the anchors in that area or rockfall?


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Most Anchors in that location are bolts with rings and are stainless but i haven't climb on that specific wall. Rock fall could be possible in that area.


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Thanks for the edit majid

Does anyone know what caused the rap failure? Did one of them misrig their device or did they not even out the ends and rap off the end? The article says it was a 150-180 meter climb, meaning it was most likely a multiple rappel


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crasic wrote:
Thanks for the edit majid

Does anyone know what caused the rap failure? Did one of them misrig their device or did they not even out the ends and rap off the end? The article says it was a 150-180 meter climb, meaning it was most likely a multiple rappel


I ran in to something in supertopo pointing , may be one was rapping faster than other person or something in that line and if you are doing a simul rap then both people must rap next to one another. Ideally, you want a short sling attack between the two and both people must control the decent very carefully.

IMO, simul rap should be used as last option in a serious life or death situation where both climbers must rap multi pitches to bail out however, when you look at how much time you save vs risk involved, There aren't much gain


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majid_sabet wrote:

I ran in to something in supertopo pointing , may be one was rapping faster than other person or something in that line and if you are doing a simul rap then both people must rap next to one another. Ideally, you want a short sling attack between the two and both people must control the decent very carefully.

IMO, simul rap should be used as last option in a serious life or death situation where both climbers must rap multi pitches to bail out however, when you look at how much time you save vs risk involved, There aren't much gain

Simul-rappelling is sometimes done on a fin of rock with each rappeller going down a different side. Mostly, this is done when there's no other way down and nothing on the top of the fin to which you can affix an anchor. I've known people who do this regularly. I regard it as desperation move.

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robdotcalm wrote:
majid_sabet wrote:

I ran in to something in supertopo pointing , may be one was rapping faster than other person or something in that line and if you are doing a simul rap then both people must rap next to one another. Ideally, you want a short sling attack between the two and both people must control the decent very carefully.

IMO, simul rap should be used as last option in a serious life or death situation where both climbers must rap multi pitches to bail out however, when you look at how much time you save vs risk involved, There aren't much gain

Simul-rappelling is sometimes done on a fin of rock with each rappeller going down a different side. Mostly, this is done when there's no other way down and nothing on the top of the fin to which you can affix an anchor. I've known people who do this regularly. I regard it as desperation move.

Rob.calm

Not to uncommon out here on some of our needles.

Whatever your simul-rapping, you need to have knots in the ends of your rope IMO. Being in control and having your wits about are a necessity too on all raps.


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