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curt
Dec 10, 2012, 6:00 AM
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bearbreeder wrote: i think not climbing as hard as you can is stupid ...
So, skipping 2 or 3 bolts to experience a more exhilarating fall is your definition of climbing hard? Interesting.
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curt
Dec 10, 2012, 6:46 AM
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bearbreeder wrote: curt wrote: So, skipping 2 or 3 bolts to experience a more exhilarating fall is your definition of climbing hard? Interesting. Curt did i say that? ..
You certainly seemed to. Perhaps you should reread this thread from the beginning, so you don't remain baffled concerning your own posts.
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granite_grrl
Dec 10, 2012, 12:59 PM
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bearbreeder wrote: Libbster wrote: Also I advocate taking practice falls. I don't have a problem with those. I did them all the time when I was practicing. What I meant was I've seen people skipping 2 or 3 bolts just so when the jump its a intense fall. I feel that is recklessif you are up high enough and theres nothing to hit on the way down ... its doesnt matter one bit just because you dont get it doesnt mean its "reckless"
Dumbass.
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Libbster
Dec 10, 2012, 4:04 PM
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I'm the dumbass? or the other guy?
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curt
Dec 10, 2012, 4:07 PM
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Libbster wrote: I'm the dumbass? or the other guy?
The other guy.
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bearbreeder
Dec 10, 2012, 4:33 PM
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granite_grrl wrote: bearbreeder wrote: Libbster wrote: Also I advocate taking practice falls. I don't have a problem with those. I did them all the time when I was practicing. What I meant was I've seen people skipping 2 or 3 bolts just so when the jump its a intense fall. I feel that is recklessif you are up high enough and theres nothing to hit on the way down ... its doesnt matter one bit just because you dont get it doesnt mean its "reckless" Dumbass.
stupid gurl ... it doesnt mean its "reckless" .... where exactly did i say it was "climbing hard"
or do you equate "might not be reckless" ... to "climbing hard"
LOL
try again
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granite_grrl
Dec 10, 2012, 5:23 PM
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bearbreeder wrote: granite_grrl wrote: bearbreeder wrote: Libbster wrote: Also I advocate taking practice falls. I don't have a problem with those. I did them all the time when I was practicing. What I meant was I've seen people skipping 2 or 3 bolts just so when the jump its a intense fall. I feel that is recklessif you are up high enough and theres nothing to hit on the way down ... its doesnt matter one bit just because you dont get it doesnt mean its "reckless" Dumbass. stupid gurl ... it doesnt mean its "reckless" .... where exactly did i say it was "climbing hard" or do you equate "might not be reckless" ... to "climbing hard" LOL try again
Where did I say anything about climbing hard? You really do need to work on your reading comprehension. Dumbass.
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bearbreeder
Dec 10, 2012, 5:30 PM
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granite_grrl wrote: bearbreeder wrote: granite_grrl wrote: bearbreeder wrote: Libbster wrote: Also I advocate taking practice falls. I don't have a problem with those. I did them all the time when I was practicing. What I meant was I've seen people skipping 2 or 3 bolts just so when the jump its a intense fall. I feel that is recklessif you are up high enough and theres nothing to hit on the way down ... its doesnt matter one bit just because you dont get it doesnt mean its "reckless" Dumbass. stupid gurl ... it doesnt mean its "reckless" .... where exactly did i say it was "climbing hard" or do you equate "might not be reckless" ... to "climbing hard" LOL try again Where did I say anything about climbing hard? You really do need to work on your reading comprehension. Dumbass.
projecting your fears into others then ... typical RC
i bet you run around the crag shouting DUMBASS whenever someone takes a whipper 
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Syd
Dec 11, 2012, 4:10 AM
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You feel fear because there is always a real chance of injury when leading. There's a lot of things you can do to reduce the risks - wear a helmet, use double ropes, climb within your ability, TR hard routes before leading them, have a very good belayer, take care of the rope crossing your legs, don't climb damp sandstone, etc, etc. However at some point, if you climb long enough, you are going to have a serious injury. Ankle injuries seem ubiquitous.
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MikeDierson
Feb 7, 2013, 7:56 PM
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In my country the solution is simple. The climber is called names (kiciuś) and the belayer prevents them from deseding untill pitch is complete. Safe because this is after anchorbuilding skills have been dialed at the base level. Crude but effective.
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sbaclimber
Feb 10, 2013, 8:37 PM
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cracklover wrote: MikeDierson wrote: In my country the solution is simple. The climber is called names (kiciuś) and the belayer prevents them from deseding untill pitch is complete. Safe because this is after anchorbuilding skills have been dialed at the base level. Crude but effective.Like your attempts at trolling? GO
Effective....thankfully, no. So far, most have had the sense to ignore this one.
Admittedly, after all the posts referencing "my country" I have been curious as which country "my country" is. Now I have a clue. 
Edit: spilling
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jsunmatthews
Feb 10, 2013, 10:12 PM
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Anyone who says the thought of falling doesn't make their bum tighten a bit is lying or stupid. As you progress, you'll get a better feel of what a fall feels like. Don't avoid taking several falls on purpose. Learn to relax, let go, let the rope do it's thing. Study what the rope does when you fall. Learn to recognize when your feet are in a position that would cause the rope to tangle around them if you fell. No way through it but to do it, but don't lose the fear. Climbers without fear usually end up dead.
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Syd
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jsunmatthews wrote: Climbers without fear usually end up dead.
Plenty of climbers with fear end up dead too ;-)
Your point is a good one though ... complacency is a big killer. For example, 3 deaths in Australia in recent years from very experienced climbers, unroped, falling from the top of crags when walking about.
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jsunmatthews
Feb 11, 2013, 6:20 PM
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True dat!
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Marylandclimber
Feb 11, 2013, 8:28 PM
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jsunmatthews wrote: Anyone who says the thought of falling doesn't make their bum tighten a bit is lying or stupid. As you progress, you'll get a better feel of what a fall feels like. Don't avoid taking several falls on purpose. Learn to relax, let go, let the rope do it's thing. Study what the rope does when you fall. Learn to recognize when your feet are in a position that would cause the rope to tangle around them if you fell. No way through it but to do it, but don't lose the fear. Climbers without fear usually end up dead.
Perfectly Said.
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chadnsc
Feb 11, 2013, 10:34 PM
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bearbreeder wrote: i think not climbing as hard as you can is stupid ... as is TRing climbs that are well within your ability with clean falls and good gear or being so scared on a lead with good gear and clean falls that you arent willing to take one ... but thats other people's choice .... if they arent harming other people or the rock ... of course RC is all about telling people how to climb
Ah the hypocrisy is strong with this one.
T3 simply because it's so blatant. Good job getting a few to bight though.
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CrimpyFever
Feb 11, 2013, 10:53 PM
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I had the exact same problem when I started and still do (particularily with clipping on crappy holds).
To get over lead falls I just kept falling.
Pick a route,
fall from the 2nd clip, pull up,
fall from the 3rd, pull up
fall from the 4th etc....
this really helps! the more you fall the less scary it will become!
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bearbreeder
Feb 12, 2013, 2:32 AM
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chadnsc wrote: bearbreeder wrote: i think not climbing as hard as you can is stupid ... as is TRing climbs that are well within your ability with clean falls and good gear or being so scared on a lead with good gear and clean falls that you arent willing to take one ... but thats other people's choice .... if they arent harming other people or the rock ... of course RC is all about telling people how to climb Ah the hypocrisy is strong with this one. T3 simply because it's so blatant. Good job getting a few to bight though.
And so the new year starts
Go take a few whippahs
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Libbster
Feb 12, 2013, 2:08 PM
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You know I don't really mind falling, usually because I can't comprehend what the hell is happening, just a huge blur
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