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sillywilly98
Dec 12, 2012, 1:29 PM
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njrox
Dec 12, 2012, 2:48 PM
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are you for real?
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sillywilly98
Dec 12, 2012, 2:50 PM
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njrox
Dec 12, 2012, 3:24 PM
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Ok, William…where to begin?
So you’ve got 10 quickdraws and 10 stoppers? That’s an interesting rack. And I’m assuming that they are “sport” quick draws? Just an FYI - clipping stoppers with “sport” quickdraws isn’t very safe. I hope you have a few “sling” draws. And a rack of 10 stoppers? No doubles? No cams? So, all the cracks are going to be vertical? And you won’t need more than one size? Uh huh...
But forget all that. If a route is fully bolted, why are you carrying stoppers?
And Pops is using an ascender? You’re saying your Dad is a “tad bit heavy” and he’s just going to go ahead and haul himself up a multi-pitch climb with a single ascender, on a dynamic rope? Oh boy…
30 feet in between bolts is ridiculously run out.
So, if your post isn’t a joke I would suggest you get some SERIOUS guidance and instruction.
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sillywilly98
Dec 12, 2012, 3:41 PM
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As for my rack im just bulding it. I use webbing as slings. Yes 30 ft is a ridiclous runnoit but if i can fit at least 1 or 2 stoppers inbetween I should be ok and the accender my dad will have both ends to his harness. one figure 8 tyed to his harness one in the accender and 3ft up to a pully. So he can just pull himself up. I am a verey strong climber. I just want to know if there are some mostly well bolted multi pich routes at laurel knob.
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rocknice2
Dec 12, 2012, 3:49 PM
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njrox
Dec 12, 2012, 4:17 PM
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Ok, you’re a strong climber. That’s cool. Admittedly, I am not a strong climber. But I lead a few and followed on many multi-pitch trad climbs. And I can tell you, without a doubt, going up a multi-pitch route with just 10 stoppers for pro is friggin’ ridiculous. I have the ten standard #4-13 stoppers as well…it’s about one-third of the pro I normally carry. Why? Did you ever think that maybe, just maybe, the rock isn’t always perfectly conformed to accept stoppers? Maybe you need something bigger than a #13 stopper? Maybe you need to use the same size piece of gear more than once? Or maybe you can’t place a stopper and you can only place a cam or a tricam? Is this making sense to you yet?
As far as Laurel Knob, a quick search here on RC.com lead me to this. Please read carefully.
Though there are a number of excellent moderate routes here, Laurel Knob is not a good destination for inexperienced climbers. Routes are up to 12 pitches in length, requiring good leading and anchoring skills.
A standard rack with pro up to 3" is normal (some routes need bigger gear and are noted). Bring two 60m ropes and bail gear. Many belays are bolted, but be prepared to build gear anchors.
Anyway, you’re going climbing with your Dad and I’m not your Dad so I’m going to leave this one alone. But I was being serious when I asked you if you were for real. And as this conversation continued I realized you need some help and I’m not here to give you an online rock climbing lesson or turn this into another noob trashing session.
Climbing is awesome, and I love it. I hope you learn how to climb safely, that you become a safe climber, and that you enjoy climbing.
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camhead
Dec 12, 2012, 4:55 PM
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What 12a's have you led, out of curiosity?
Rather than pick over all your details, I think I'm just going to go ahead and say that, no, Laurel Knob is not for you.
Actually, give your rack, it's safe to say that 98% of NC is not for you.
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vinnie83
Dec 12, 2012, 4:58 PM
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njrox wrote: are you for real?
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johnwesely
Dec 12, 2012, 7:36 PM
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Anyone able to find a google cache of the OP?
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njrox
Dec 12, 2012, 8:04 PM
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vinnie83 wrote: njrox wrote: are you for real? Look at some of this guy's other posts from the past couple of days, actually his only other posts, and you should be able to answer that one yourself.
wow. 
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notapplicable
Dec 13, 2012, 1:50 AM
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camhead wrote: What 12a's have you led, out of curiosity? Rather than pick over all your details, I think I'm just going to go ahead and say that, no, Laurel Knob is not for you. Actually, give your rack, it's safe to say that 98% of NC is not for you.
I disagree. I think Laurel Knob is exactly where this cat needs to be pushing his lead game. I would also like to suggest a stop by Whitesides as a warm up.
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