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guangzhou
Dec 4, 2012, 5:42 PM
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USnavy wrote: guangzhou wrote: USnavy wrote: eric_k wrote: dagibbs wrote: Bring an angle-grinder with you, and take some of the polish off the holds? while my advice to all american climbers is to get over to places like Ceuse/Suirana a Eric That is one option. Or American climbers could just choose one of the 90% of sport routes that arnt polished...  Not all American climbers have a vast and limitless amount of climbing option in the Area. We're not all bless with the wealth of Climbing options Hawaii offers. Well maybe you should come visit Hawaii then and indulge in our limitless climbing potential. One could do as I do and just spend six months out of the year on the [continental US] road climbing. That is always a good option.
Are you in the Nave or not? If so, how do you get 6 months a year off to do a road trip? Just curious, 30 days leave per year, can be accumulated to 60 days maximum. Where do the other four months come from?
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Gmburns2000
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guangzhou wrote: USnavy wrote: guangzhou wrote: USnavy wrote: eric_k wrote: dagibbs wrote: Bring an angle-grinder with you, and take some of the polish off the holds? while my advice to all american climbers is to get over to places like Ceuse/Suirana a Eric That is one option. Or American climbers could just choose one of the 90% of sport routes that arnt polished... Not all American climbers have a vast and limitless amount of climbing option in the Area. We're not all bless with the wealth of Climbing options Hawaii offers. Well maybe you should come visit Hawaii then and indulge in our limitless climbing potential. One could do as I do and just spend six months out of the year on the [continental US] road climbing. That is always a good option. Are you in the Nave or not? If so, how do you get 6 months a year off to do a road trip? Just curious, 30 days leave per year, can be accumulated to 60 days maximum. Where do the other four months come from?
I'm pretty sure he's out now. He's been road tripping for about a year it seems.
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guangzhou
Dec 5, 2012, 5:38 PM
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Mot sure either, he was just commenting on the great health insurance the Navy provides him. Guess he could be retired with full benefits.
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Co1urzz
Dec 5, 2012, 5:55 PM
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you have to maintain a connection with your feet, alot of times on polished limestone, you are constantly slipping, and its about continuously moving. further steps to ensure good footwork can be to climb barefoot, which i find to be only comfortable on polished rock.
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Gmburns2000
Dec 6, 2012, 2:36 AM
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guangzhou wrote: Mot sure either, he was just commenting on the great health insurance the Navy provides him. Guess he could be retired with full benefits.
actually, from what I understand, you don't need to be retired to have access to various benefits.
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USnavy
Dec 6, 2012, 4:56 PM
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guangzhou wrote: USnavy wrote: guangzhou wrote: USnavy wrote: eric_k wrote: dagibbs wrote: Bring an angle-grinder with you, and take some of the polish off the holds? while my advice to all american climbers is to get over to places like Ceuse/Suirana a Eric That is one option. Or American climbers could just choose one of the 90% of sport routes that arnt polished... Not all American climbers have a vast and limitless amount of climbing option in the Area. We're not all bless with the wealth of Climbing options Hawaii offers. Well maybe you should come visit Hawaii then and indulge in our limitless climbing potential. One could do as I do and just spend six months out of the year on the [continental US] road climbing. That is always a good option. Are you in the Nave or not? If so, how do you get 6 months a year off to do a road trip? Just curious, 30 days leave per year, can be accumulated to 60 days maximum. Where do the other four months come from?
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guangzhou
Dec 6, 2012, 7:15 PM
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Noted. VA benefits are great, but not as good as some people believe them to be. (I too receive them)
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USnavy
Dec 6, 2012, 11:01 PM
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guangzhou wrote: but not as good as some people believe them to be.
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camrock
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USnavy wrote: guangzhou wrote: USnavy wrote: guangzhou wrote: USnavy wrote: eric_k wrote: dagibbs wrote: Bring an angle-grinder with you, and take some of the polish off the holds? while my advice to all american climbers is to get over to places like Ceuse/Suirana a Eric That is one option. Or American climbers could just choose one of the 90% of sport routes that arnt polished... Not all American climbers have a vast and limitless amount of climbing option in the Area. We're not all bless with the wealth of Climbing options Hawaii offers. Well maybe you should come visit Hawaii then and indulge in our limitless climbing potential. One could do as I do and just spend six months out of the year on the [continental US] road climbing. That is always a good option. Are you in the Nave or not? If so, how do you get 6 months a year off to do a road trip? Just curious, 30 days leave per year, can be accumulated to 60 days maximum. Where do the other four months come from? I am no longer on active duty, I am a reservist now. I work fulltime by volunteering for active duty opportunities on the off season, and I dont work at all during the on season. The health benefits I was speaking of are provided by the VA, not by the military. Any active duty member who separates active duty under honorable conditions and makes less than the VA's income cap (like $74k a year I think,) qualifies for free healthcare for life at a VA facility. Right now I am working fulltime in an active duty status (but as a reservist,) and when the spring comes around I will stop working and hit the road again. That is one nice benefit of being a reservist, I can pretty much work whenever I want, I can choose what I volunteer for and what I dont. Also, it is not a 60 day max anymore. I think it is 90 or 120 days now.
Can you PM me on this? I just separated in July of last year. (Navy as well). Did my 4, completely honorable, I've never heard of that. (The VA free med)
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guangzhou
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camrock wrote: USnavy wrote: guangzhou wrote: USnavy wrote: guangzhou wrote: USnavy wrote: eric_k wrote: dagibbs wrote: Bring an angle-grinder with you, and take some of the polish off the holds? while my advice to all american climbers is to get over to places like Ceuse/Suirana a Eric That is one option. Or American climbers could just choose one of the 90% of sport routes that arnt polished... Not all American climbers have a vast and limitless amount of climbing option in the Area. We're not all bless with the wealth of Climbing options Hawaii offers. Well maybe you should come visit Hawaii then and indulge in our limitless climbing potential. One could do as I do and just spend six months out of the year on the [continental US] road climbing. That is always a good option. Are you in the Nave or not? If so, how do you get 6 months a year off to do a road trip? Just curious, 30 days leave per year, can be accumulated to 60 days maximum. Where do the other four months come from? I am no longer on active duty, I am a reservist now. I work fulltime by volunteering for active duty opportunities on the off season, and I dont work at all during the on season. The health benefits I was speaking of are provided by the VA, not by the military. Any active duty member who separates active duty under honorable conditions and makes less than the VA's income cap (like $74k a year I think,) qualifies for free healthcare for life at a VA facility. Right now I am working fulltime in an active duty status (but as a reservist,) and when the spring comes around I will stop working and hit the road again. That is one nice benefit of being a reservist, I can pretty much work whenever I want, I can choose what I volunteer for and what I dont. Also, it is not a 60 day max anymore. I think it is 90 or 120 days now. Can you PM me on this? I just separated in July of last year. (Navy as well). Did my 4, completely honorable, I've never heard of that. (The VA free med)
Camrock, I think U.S. Navy might be the only one who has.
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JohnCook
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In Europe there are lots of "Selected route" guides, which pick just a few routes from each crag, and all the books seem to pick the same few routes. You don't a book to find the "selected" routes just look for the shiny polished groove up the place, and the heavily worn approach descent paths. Often, within a few yards, are some equally good routes that have become overgrown with lack of use. My favourite crag is limestone, Stoney Middleton in the Peak District. All the top ropeable routes and routes in the "selected" guides are polished to death, the other 300 or so are wonderful. Another problem here is that some of the walls overhang so much that the bottoms never get wet and face south so tend to be warm. The boulderers have polished these sections to a high gloss for the first 15ft. Footwork is absolutely critical. Accurate foot placement, and not shuffling around reduce the slipping risk, as does correct body position. Just a fraction off and you skate!
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USnavy
Jan 4, 2013, 3:48 PM
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guangzhou wrote: camrock wrote: USnavy wrote: guangzhou wrote: USnavy wrote: guangzhou wrote: USnavy wrote: eric_k wrote: dagibbs wrote: Bring an angle-grinder with you, and take some of the polish off the holds? while my advice to all american climbers is to get over to places like Ceuse/Suirana a Eric That is one option. Or American climbers could just choose one of the 90% of sport routes that arnt polished... Not all American climbers have a vast and limitless amount of climbing option in the Area. We're not all bless with the wealth of Climbing options Hawaii offers. Well maybe you should come visit Hawaii then and indulge in our limitless climbing potential. One could do as I do and just spend six months out of the year on the [continental US] road climbing. That is always a good option. Are you in the Nave or not? If so, how do you get 6 months a year off to do a road trip? Just curious, 30 days leave per year, can be accumulated to 60 days maximum. Where do the other four months come from? I am no longer on active duty, I am a reservist now. I work fulltime by volunteering for active duty opportunities on the off season, and I dont work at all during the on season. The health benefits I was speaking of are provided by the VA, not by the military. Any active duty member who separates active duty under honorable conditions and makes less than the VA's income cap (like $74k a year I think,) qualifies for free healthcare for life at a VA facility. Right now I am working fulltime in an active duty status (but as a reservist,) and when the spring comes around I will stop working and hit the road again. That is one nice benefit of being a reservist, I can pretty much work whenever I want, I can choose what I volunteer for and what I dont. Also, it is not a 60 day max anymore. I think it is 90 or 120 days now. Can you PM me on this? I just separated in July of last year. (Navy as well). Did my 4, completely honorable, I've never heard of that. (The VA free med) Camrock, I think U.S. Navy might be the only one who has.
http://www.va.gov/healthbenefits/
But what would I know, it's not like I actually in the Navy or something.
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guangzhou
Jan 4, 2013, 8:40 PM
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Actually, that is the issue, you are still in the Navy, even if only part time.
Veterans who are completely separated from the service with perfect health when they separated are not eligible for what you claim is out there. The VA provides services on what they see "as needed."
Medical coverage is based on injuries they can trace back to your service time. I got out of the military with no ailments or injuries. (Mostly by luck maybe) I remember having some people recommend I start visiting sick call to document problems a year before I got out so I could get services after my EST.
If a veteran crossing the road tomorrow gets hit by a car, the VA would come and offer any help, even when they are registered as veterans.
Let's talk when you are no longer on reserve duty. I think you will be surprised at what the VA considers "as needed." You also be surprises when you are placed in a category so low on the entitlement that non of what you write above comes your way.
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USnavy
Jan 5, 2013, 2:10 AM
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guangzhou wrote: Veterans who are completely separated from the service with perfect health when they separated are not eligible for what you claim is out there. The VA provides services on what they see "as needed." Medical coverage is based on injuries they can trace back to your service time. I got out of the military with no ailments or injuries. (Mostly by luck maybe) I remember having some people recommend I start visiting sick call to document problems a year before I got out so I could get services after my EST.
Also, the VA has no idea I am in the reserves. That does not concern them. The reserves do not offer any medical benefits other than I can choose to purchase TriCare at a reduced cost if I wanted to. When I first applied for healthcare and got approved by the VA, I was 100% out and I was not in the reserves. I joined the reserves after I was long approved for VA care.
Anyone who makes less than $30,460 (2012 rate) a year and holds a DD214 with an honorable discharge automatically qualifies for priority group five care. It says right on their website. That means pretty much anyone who gets out of the military without a service connected disability can be placed in priority group five if they meet the income requirements, or priority group eight if they do not.
Here, it says right on their website. "Priority group 5: Nonservice-connected Veterans and noncompensable Service-connected Veterans rated 0%, whose annual income and/or net worth are not greater than the VA financial thresholds." http://www.va.gov/healthbenefits/resources/priority_groups.asp
In any case, I am in group five and I have not had any issues accessing care. Granted I have only used it twice. But when I did use it there were no issues. It was just like I was on active duty. I showed up, showed them my ID, got the care I needed, and walked out. It was as simple as that.
Ultimately when I say "free care for life" what I am really emphasizing is the lack of a need to purchase health insurance to cover rock climbing injuries. Regardless of what priority group you are in, if you require emergency care you will receive it (assuming you meet their ER care requirements on their website). But yes, if you have some chronic condition where you are in the hospital everyday, then you might want to consider getting actual health insurance.
Although I do understand the resource allotment issue. The first appointment I made with the VA took 40 days to get. But the second only took a few days. Apparently the very first appointment takes forever for some reason. The VA's official stance is they aim to get you in with the doctor within 48 hours of requesting an appointment. I have not tested that to verify if it is true or not, but that is what they claim.
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deleted so we don't go round in circles.
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