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Wade308


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I have some non-climbing buddies I want to do some 3rd and 4th class scrambling with this summer.

I'd like to bring a rope along just in case it gets a little hairy and maybe do some short rappels. All I have is a right now is a brand new 60M that I really don't want to lug around or chop up.

Is there anywhere that might have a nice short rope available for this kind of thing?


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I have some non-climbing buddies I want to do some 3rd and 4th class scrambling with this summer.

I'd like to bring a rope along just in case it gets a little hairy and maybe do some short rappels. All I have is a right now is a brand new 60M that I really don't want to lug around or chop up.

Is there anywhere that might have a nice short rope available for this kind of thing?

Gearexpress sells rope shorts.


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My advice: Give your friends the best you have.
Let them share the great safety gear you have, and the great safety techniques you'll show them.

What are your belay anchors? Trees and boulders are OK if you have plenty of sling material. And don't forget, when each person reaches your belay, they'll want to tie in to it somehow, to be safe up there.

With a rope, each will all need a sit-harness to tie into. No belay devices, but biners might be handy.

The first time I climbed a grade-4 "cliff", I was given good top-rope stuff to keep me safe. One of our ropes that day looked pretty tatty, although not damaged. None of us would volunteer to use it.

So do you friends a favor, and show how you take their safety seriously.


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dan2see wrote:
My advice: Give your friends the best you have.
Let them share the great safety gear you have, and the great safety techniques you'll show them.

What are your belay anchors? Trees and boulders are OK if you have plenty of sling material. And don't forget, when each person reaches your belay, they'll want to tie in to it somehow, to be safe up there.

With a rope, each will all need a sit-harness to tie into. No belay devices, but biners might be handy.

The first time I climbed a grade-4 "cliff", I was given good top-rope stuff to keep me safe. One of our ropes that day looked pretty tatty, although not damaged. None of us would volunteer to use it.

So do you friends a favor, and show how you take their safety seriously.
I know you aren't implying that a short rope is automatically crappy one, but it kind of sounds like it.
I doubt the OP is trying to avoid lugging his 60M around just for the sake of being cheap, but rather because it is overkill for the purpose, not to mention heavier and more of a bummer if it does end up getting trashed.
The reference to sit-harnesses is good though. Not only for tying in, but also for the potential rappelling the OP mentioned.
(n00bs + dülfersitz is not a recipe for funTongue)


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I have a Beal Rando, and I use it occasionally.

It's a 7.8 mm "twin" which means a single strand can't protect a leader fall, but in fact it's perfect for top-rope, or belaying from above.

Mine is 20 meters long, which is kinda short for rapell, so I recommend the 30 meter.

It weighs only two pounds. The price is 1/3 of a full rope.


Wade308


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Thanks for the advice.
I do have extra harnesses to bring, etc.

Some of these scrambles are upwards of 20 mile round trip hikes, so weight is going to be a huge factor.


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Just about every manufacturer has one in their catalogue, usually as a "confidence rope". 8mm x 30m is pretty well the standard. Or you find a trad climber with a trashed half rope and use 30m of that.


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Roger that.
Thanks all!


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