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camhead
Feb 29, 2012, 2:24 PM
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edge wrote: camhead wrote: edge wrote: camhead wrote: tH1e-swiN1e wrote: As an approach shoe I think theyre a better choice than all the flip flops and stuff I see people wearing on hikes. It is a point of pride and principle for me to do as many approaches as possible in flipflops. Me too. I have even lead "Died Laughing" (Cathedral Ledge 5.9 crack) in flip flops BITD. That must mean they are great climbing shoes right? Fully breathable, compact design, allows my toes to roam at will... This image is appropriate here, even though it's so low-rez you can't see the flip flops clearly. Forget something? gargh, I posted that before I'd had my coffee.
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healyje
Feb 29, 2012, 2:31 PM
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Actually a great PDX hip-hop band, though now long defunkt. iTunes Amazon
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kernelfrugivore
Nov 16, 2012, 5:10 PM
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petsfed wrote: Well, you can rest easy knowing that Vibram Five-Fingers will always be lousy climbing shoes since the necessary change to make them good would make them impossible to put on. There are some changes that would make them better climbers, like the shape of the toes and stickier rubber. What change would make them impossible to put on, though? I'm brand new to climbing, so I'm not sure what this means - I've really enjoyed climbing in my ff's so far. I'm curious enough to create an account and post the question - would love to hear what you or others think on the subject.
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petsfed
Nov 16, 2012, 6:01 PM
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The reason people get such tight climbing shoes is so that the foot doesn't slide around inside of them. Its one thing for the sole to ooze off an edge, its another for the shoe to stay put, but your foot slide off the point in the sole that sits on the edge. You can get away with a little bit of give in a shoe by mashing your toes together, but if you're encasing the toes individually, you have to have sufficient give in each just to get the thing on. This translates directly to about 5 times as much give in the fit of the shoe, for the exact same difficulty in putting them on.
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kernelfrugivore
Nov 16, 2012, 9:52 PM
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I see. I got that the shape of the toes and heel on climbing shoes was to concentrate as much pressure from the whole foot into a single point, but the sliding factor wasn't self-evident to me. Thanks. :)
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Tiffaro0
Dec 3, 2012, 2:37 PM
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That is the most awesome picture
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patto
Dec 20, 2012, 8:14 AM
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camhead wrote: gargh, I posted that before I'd had my coffee. [image]http://www.chockstone.org/upload/userfiles/dalai/John%20sherman.jpg[/image] They are definately NOT "flip flops". They are quite clearly "thongs"!
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spiderman5
Jan 18, 2013, 4:35 AM
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I love my vibrams, great for running and just wearing in general. But I wouldn't wear em to climb in.
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gaelstorm
Feb 28, 2013, 2:51 PM
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I live in FiveFingers. I have had much less back and lower joint pain since I started wearing them. I have hiked in them, and I prefer the New Balance Minimus Trail over FiveFingers for general hiking. I DO like the fact that the FFs can be washed and air-dried. I wonder, though... if one got one of the paint-on re-soling (sp?) kits for climbing shoes, and put that on a pair of the smooth-soled FFs, if that would even work... Just a thought.
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acorneau
Mar 1, 2013, 10:02 PM
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gaelstorm wrote: I live in FiveFingers. I have had much less back and lower joint pain since I started wearing them. I have hiked in them, and I prefer the New Balance Minimus Trail over FiveFingers for general hiking. I DO like the fact that the FFs can be washed and air-dried. I wonder, though... if one got one of the paint-on re-soling (sp?) kits for climbing shoes, and put that on a pair of the smooth-soled FFs, if that would even work... Just a thought. Five-Finger shoes are the opposite of what you want in a climbing shoe (tightly packed toes that work together as a unified extension of your foot).
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