im just waiting for it to be "declared" unsafe by some RCers ...

So far, three responses here had people wagging their naive little fingers saying "don't do it" and "I wouldn't use it" so I think we've already attained that declaration.
For fuck's sake, it's just a goddamned top rope anchor. Dynamic or static rope doesn't matter one bit (assuming a well constructed anchor and appropriate redundancy).

So far, three responses here had people wagging their naive little fingers saying "don't do it" and "I wouldn't use it" so I think we've already attained that declaration.
For fuck's sake, it's just a goddamned top rope anchor. Dynamic or static rope doesn't matter one bit (assuming a well constructed anchor and appropriate redundancy).

http://alpineinstitute.blogspot.ca/...rope-in-anchors.html

I think only one person has said they wouldn't use it, the rest of have just said that it is not the best tool for the job, and I still think that is true. Would I use it if I had it...sure. In fact, I have a bunch of old half ropes that I take top-roping. Would I go out and buy it for this purpose...hell no.

Of course it will work and of course it can be safe..there's no question about that. But to have a "knowledgeable" salesperson tell you this is what you need for building toprope anchors? That's a joke.

I am new to making my own top rope anchors off of natural points and was always under the impression that static ropes should be used for anchors. At my local climbing store the clerk suggested a Rando 8mm Twin dry rope. (http://bealplanet.com/sport/anglais/corde-rando.php). I figured it was static but once home realized it is dynamic. Will this be alright as a top rope anchor?

That's funny, I don't see any of those pictures using a single 8mm dynamic rope to create a top-rope anchor. Can you find me one instance of a guide outfit that routinely uses skinny dynamic line for their toprope anchors?Of course it will work and of course it can be safe..there's no question about that. But to have a "knowledgeable" salesperson tell you this is what you need for building toprope anchors? That's a joke.

But bearbreeder is so intent on finding fault with any response that anybody bothers to post on RC that he doesn't actually bother to pay attention to details of what the people said.

Apparently differentiating between the OPTIMAL tool to use for something (optimal in a combined sense of safety, efficiency, minimalism and price) and ANY tool that would work without getting you killed is never important. Even if the OP specifically asks for such information..

Steel chain would be "safe" too. Maybe you can find a picture of a guide or your favorite local Squish hero using 20 ft of chain to build a toprope anchor too?

we do it all the time ... its called clipping your draws through the lower rap chain links to avoid loading em over and edge ... but not usually 20 feet

or do you not lower/rap though the chains

top rope anchors off of natural points

The op said no one was talking about permanent chain anchors except you. My point, which you've completely ignored, is that there plenty of things that are safe that aren't optimal. I'm sure the OP paid more for that rope than an equivalent static rope or a length of webbing, both of which would be better for the application. Aren't you the one who is always saying that there is no need to spend lots of $$ on a rope? Well here's an instance where someone likely just spent too much for something that is not even the best tool for the job. If you'd bothered to actually read the replies in this thread, you would have noticed that pretty much everyone has said the same thing you have...everyone (ok one exception) agrees that it'll be safe if s/he is mindful of a few things. Things which were pointed out by several other people before you, only you were too busy ignoring the previous advice so you could go off on your predictable RC.com rant.

like i said itll work fine as long as the person KNOWS what hes doing ... like any other piece of equipment

again ... follow the basic rules
- protect the edges
- account for stretch
- have redundancy

the rope wont break, and as long as you protect it properly it wont get cut and even if it does as long as you have redundancy, you wont die

You keep repeating this like it's something different. Nobody has said otherwise. No matter how much you want it to not be true, only one person has said they wouldn't climb on it. Everyone else has said the EXACT SAME THING. The only difference is that the rest realize that there were better uses for the $$ than a 8 mm dynamic rope for TR anchors.

really? ...

i buy it by the meter at MEC where its CHEAPER than the equivalent static cord $2.50 vs $2.60

http://www.mec.ca/...n-8.0mm-dry-rope.jsp
vs ...

http://www.mec.ca/...-8mm-static-cord.jsp

for these kind of anchors

[image]http://www.supertopo.com/photos/4/72/168688_20031_XL.jpg[/image]

no doubt im a dead RCer walking ... especially as its not "good value" despite costing less

again ... follow the basic rules
- protect the edges
- account for stretch
- have redundancy

That's not what the op bought. He was sold what was likely a $90 rope assuming he bought the entire 30m rope. You can get webbing for ~$1/m or 8mm cord for ~$1.50/m, either of which are just as safe and cheaper. Your "savings" of 10 cents per meter is only a savings if they last the same amount of time. I'd be willing to bet that no matter how well you pad the edges, the dynamic will wear out more quickly than the static.

So answer this...yes or no...that simple: Do you think the OP was given good advice by the salesman? Keep in mind that we're talking about material that will be devoted to creating natural top-rope anchors.