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majid_sabet
May 1, 2013, 9:26 PM
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jorgegonzalez wrote: I heard on the news that after dis-regrding the Sherpas' request that they wait to climb until after the Sherpas finished fixing the line, the trio went around and kicked off ice that fell and struck one of the Sherpas, injuring him. While I wasn't there and can't say to what degree the Sherpas' reaction to the trio's action was justified, it certainly was not an unprovoked incident. The history of treatment (or mistreatment) of Sherpas undoubtedly blew the situation up out of proportion, causing the climbers to suffer for the ills and misconduct of their brethren. I'm just saying . . .
this came from friend of mine who is a Sherpa guide in Everest
On Apr 30, 2013, at 9:23 AM,
Hi
How you been ?
What is going on on Everest ? Fighting ?
Majid
Majid,
Namaste!
There was some misunderstanding between European climbers and Sherpa guides. As I noticed the Sherpas were fixing the rope on lhotse face below camp III and the other climber had kept climbing a head even the Sherpas ask them to wait. Some how the chunk of ice roll down, which was mis locate by the other climbers above. The ice hit on one of the route fixing sherpa and got injured. The discussion started from that point and turn into big issue once they reached back at the camp. The media made it huge issues although the both side considered their mistake and agreed to keep climbing with each others supports. The agreement paper was signed at base camp.
It is very sad news though. Everyone should respect each other.
Thank you.
Best,
Sent from my iPhone
(This post was edited by majid_sabet on May 1, 2013, 9:31 PM)
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lofstromc
May 1, 2013, 11:30 PM
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Majid,
I've only climbed stone, so, what I think and say comes from that experience only. Keep that in mind, please before you answer.
My first thought to your post was, if a party chooses to climb past and beyond the sherpas, who are fixing ropes for other parties, isn't that their right to do so?
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majid_sabet
May 2, 2013, 12:11 AM
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lofstromc wrote: Majid, I've only climbed stone, so, what I think and say comes from that experience only. Keep that in mind, please before you answer. My first thought to your post was, if a party chooses to climb past and beyond the sherpas, who are fixing ropes for other parties, isn't that their right to do so?
yes and no. in hi alt climbing especially big 8s, the climbers and sherpas work together and have regular meeting to discuss their planning so every one is safe. when sherpas are fixing rope, they are fixing it for everyone so it would be proper to let them finish it up. Sherpas know the mountain and that is their business so whatever they do, generally its to the benefit of everyone .
if you are an individual with ego disregarding locals and something goes wrong then you better be ready to get your ass kicked down at the BC.
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ObviousTroll
May 2, 2013, 1:24 PM
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majid_sabet wrote: if you are an individual with ego disregarding locals and something goes wrong then you better be ready to get your ass kicked down at the BC.
So threatening their lives, pelting them with rocks, and holding hostages corralled in their tent becomes synonomous with "ass kicked off the mountain." :)
Stir the pot.
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dynosore
May 2, 2013, 3:02 PM
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"The lead fixing Sherpa spoke with one of the 3 climbers at which point physical contact was made, at that point Simone came in verbal contact with a number of the fixing team who had now congregated at one of the anchors to secure themselves from sliding down the face.
Simone began to shout, many of the words in Nepali language, and many of the words were inflammatory. At this point the fixing team made the correct decision to drop their loads of rope and hardware, attaching them to the installed line, and descend without any further interaction or confrontation with the 3 climbers. The fixing team descended to camp 2 and went to their respective camps as a number of expedition teams work together to fix the route on Mt. Everest. As the fixing team descended to camp 2, Simone radioed down requesting to know what the Sherpa were talking about. At one point Simone stated over open radio frequency (fixing frequency-tuned in by all the fixing teams and anyone listening on the mountain) that if the Sherpa had a problem he could come down to Camp 2 soon and “f—ing fight”. "
This big mouth shoved one of the sherpas while they were trying to do their job, cussed them out, and challenged them to a fight (if this account is correct).
Don't start something you can't finish. Having been to Nepal and interacted with sherpas, I tend to believe this account. They are kind and humble people.
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kpb
May 3, 2013, 4:00 PM
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dynosore wrote: This big mouth shoved one of the sherpas while they were trying to do their job, cussed them out, and challenged them to a fight (if this account is correct). Don't start something you can't finish. Having been to Nepal and interacted with sherpas, I tend to believe this account. They are kind and humble people.
Also, according to this account, the Sherpas formed a large vicious mob threatening murder. Doesn't sound kind or humble. No one is reporting a one on one fight between a couple of over heated guys.
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