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Anyone know if you can rappell Cat in the Hat with one rope or do you definitely need two? Been about 12 years since I've climbed it and can't remember...


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From Mountain Project:
You can continue to the summit of Mescalito from here (many pitches mostly 3rd and 4th with some 5th class), but virtually all rap: First 130' to the top of pitch 4 (lots of rope drag to pull, plus knobs to catch the rope, some recommend doing this as a 50' rap to an intermediate bolted anchor and then an 80' rap to the top of pitch 4). Second rappel 140' from the big block to the tree at the top of pitch 3. Third rappel 70' from the tree to the big ledge. Scramble down the ledge to the bolts at the top of the second pitch (this down scramble is a little tricky at the end, watch out, maybe belay beginners). Fourth rappel 150' from the bolts at the top of the second pitch, angling left (north) to make the ground. We experienced bad rope drag pulling this one too and perhaps it is better to do use the bolts atop pitch 1 to split it up into two. I believe you could rap this with only one 60m rope EXCEPT for the second rappel.


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I came over from the Mescalito summit having climbed over from Dark Shadows (the full meal deal which is a great route and tops out) and got to the CITH rap and I can say that 2 ropes it is. We had one. Fortunately, friendly folks let us tag along with them for the descent.

Dark Shadows is suppose to have a rappel from the top someplace, but we couldn't find it. If that had a clear single rope rap which paralleled the route, and not on it so as to be screwing with folks climbing it, it would be one of the top lines in Red Rocks. As it is, the crossover to Cat in the hat side sucks.


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We did it with two ropes, defiantly made life a lot easier! a few folks we past on the way up were planning on one rope with a pull cord... which would work as well.


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hobo_climber wrote:
We did it with two ropes, defiantly made life a lot easier! a few folks we past on the way up were planning on one rope with a pull cord... which would work as well.
Unless the one rope snags on the way down, leaving you with nothing but a pull cord.....

Check out the multiple hunks of rope, cut off and discarded, forever stuck in the crack on the next to last pitch (P4 or is it P5 that is the penultimate pitch?).


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I thought Mike Ho put in bolted rapstations?


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tomcecil wrote:
I thought Mike Ho put in bolted rapstations?
Did you read the thread? There are bolted rap stations, but you do need two ropes for at least one of the raps.


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I did it one one 70m rope last December -- but had to down-climb a bit to one of the rap stations (not exposed), just don't recall which one had the down-climb.


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Probably getting to the last anchors which are on that monster ledge at the top of P2.


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