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granite_grrl


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I mean, seriously.



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Because we have no interest whatsoever?


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I think it's a great idea who's time has come!

http://youtu.be/3f1qnII_f7s


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rocknice2 wrote:
I think it's a great idea who's time has come!

http://youtu.be/3f1qnII_f7s

While I am glad CBC ran that piece, I was upset that no one bothered to mention the third member of the Canadian ice climbing team? Perhaps because he doesn't live in the West they figured no one would care?

To recap, there are three Canadians who will demonstraiting at the Olympic Village, Nathan Kutcher, Jen Olson and Gord McArthur. The couple of Americans that were planning to attend backed out, so I'm not sure who is there other than Marc Beverly from the US.

They have a lead and a speed wall set up there and will be demonstraiting compitition climbing each day and then giving instruction to the general public who are interested.


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granite_grrl wrote:
I mean, seriously.

[image]http://theuiaa.org/upload_area/News/medium/2014-02-08_UIAA_2014_Sochi-_P1A8800-copy(1).jpg[/image]

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cause this place is dead as a doorknob.
There is no talk of anyting.


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iknowfear wrote:
granite_grrl wrote:
I mean, seriously.

[image]http://theuiaa.org/upload_area/News/medium/2014-02-08_UIAA_2014_Sochi-_P1A8800-copy(1).jpg[/image]

More here:
http://theuiaa.org/...-tower-in-Sochi.html

cause this place is dead as a doorknob.
There is no talk of anyting.

I just doubled today's post count by posting this.


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I pity the poor people who bought this place. The old owners let it go down the drain, then dumped the site as soon as they could. I wonder what the new owners paid for it.

Looks like their kids will be going to community college.


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I pity the poor people who bought this place. The old owners let it go down the drain, then dumped the site as soon as they could. I wonder what the new owners paid for it.

Looks like their kids will be going to community college.

I think this site's traffic normally drops in the winter and picks up in the spring - corresponding to when a large chunk of this site's users stop and then resume climbing outside. As long as this site has shown some improvement by then there is a shot for forum use to pick up.


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iknowfear wrote:
granite_grrl wrote:
I mean, seriously.

[image]http://theuiaa.org/upload_area/News/medium/2014-02-08_UIAA_2014_Sochi-_P1A8800-copy(1).jpg[/image]

More here:
http://theuiaa.org/...-tower-in-Sochi.html

cause this place is dead as a doorknob.
There is no talk of anyting.

Perhaps I should have titled the thread: "Let's talk about this" ?


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granite_grrl wrote:
iknowfear wrote:
granite_grrl wrote:
I mean, seriously.

[image]http://theuiaa.org/upload_area/News/medium/2014-02-08_UIAA_2014_Sochi-_P1A8800-copy(1).jpg[/image]

More here:
http://theuiaa.org/...-tower-in-Sochi.html

cause this place is dead as a doorknob.
There is no talk of anyting.

Perhaps I should have titled the thread: "Let's talk about this" ?


Yes.

But really, "climbing in the Olympics" has been discussed before. And everything that people said about climbing in the Olympics, also applies to ice climbing in the Olympics. And, relatively few users of this site are interested in ice climbing in the first place.

I personally think it is cool that this demo is happening, and that Nathan is part of it. Competition climbing has always been more popular in Europe, and ice climbing is popular in Russia, so it is a perfect venue for showcasing it.


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I think ice climbing has a better chance at getting into the Olympics than rock climbing. There are less events for the winter games and it's definitely more visual with the cool tools and all.




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At the world cup events there are usually two or three people climbing at the same time too (but not in finals) which makes it more interesting too.


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lena_chita wrote:
I personally think it is cool that this demo is happening, and that Nathan is part of it. Competition climbing has always been more popular in Europe, and ice climbing is popular in Russia, so it is a perfect venue for showcasing it.

I'm realizing more and more the differences between North American and Europe in terms of climbing. Ice comps are actually very accesable for those who are interested in it, but people here aren't really exposed to it.


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Could it be related the high initial cost associated with getting into ice climbing?

Or is your question why don't more ice climbers get involved in comps?


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chadnsc wrote:
Could it be related the high initial cost associated with getting into ice climbing?

That or simply there's not a lot of "natural" ice climbing accessible to most folks in the US... I grew up near the most heavily glaciated area in the lower 48 and there was only one ice climbing area that was relatively accessible as a day trip and it wasn't that great. Not saying there's not some great places in the US, just that they aren't super close to the population centers...

Versus rockclimbing in the outdoors is available to a lot more folks.


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we should be talking about this!! one of our own, chossy is there!!!!!!


and because ice climbing is demoing at the olympics!!!


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Honestly ice climbing is a million times more interesting than ice dancing. It makes a lot of sense to be involved as it is still a growing sport and the athletes are essentially "amateur" in the sense that they are not heavily financed by corporate sponsors.

Also rock climbing especially boudlering or speed climbing is much more interesting than some floor events in gymnastics.

Anyways i love the idea and as climbing continues to grow i think there's a good chance climbing in some forms will be a part of the Olympics.


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…yawn


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chadnsc wrote:
Could it be related the high initial cost associated with getting into ice climbing?

Or is your question why don't more ice climbers get involved in comps?

It is expensive to get into ice climbing, no question. I think that's what you see slighty more mature climbers who leading the field than the people who just turned 20.

But I was more talking comps and really mixed climbing in general. Was climbing in Quebec with a group I don't normally get out with. Brought them to a drytooling crag. Had one person comment how much fun they had....they had thought that mixed climbing and drytooling was just for elite climbers, they didn't realize that there was plenty of stuff out there for them too.


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Because people are trying to resolve the conflict between screaming about climate change and watching or participating in the Olympics, or any other climbing competition or event?


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For a climber, watching climbing is a lot like a fishermen watching a fisherman compete to catch fish. Maybe even less, as the fisherman is outside in the real world whereas the climber competing is in an artificial environment.

Perhaps it can be compared to having sex with a real hot woman, vs having a person describe 2 robots fucking their brains out.

I hope that helps you GG.


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granite_grrl wrote:
It is expensive to get into ice climbing, no question.
Once you have rock gear and some winter clothing, it's about $1200 for topnotch tools, poons and boots. It sounds like a lot. Especially when you divide it by the months you're able to do it.
Have you priced how much it cost to get your into hockey?
Skiing?

Actually the biggest expense comes from the fees to participate.


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rocknice2 wrote:
granite_grrl wrote:
It is expensive to get into ice climbing, no question.
Once you have rock gear and some winter clothing, it's about $1200 for topnotch tools, poons and boots. It sounds like a lot. Especially when you divide it by the months you're able to do it.
Have you priced how much it cost to get your into hockey?
Skiing?

Actually the biggest expense comes from the fees to participate.

Actually, in Canada the fees to participate in the ice climbing world cup are covered by the Alpine Club of Canada. These fees are surprisingly small though.

The biggest expense is getting there! It's one thing if you're a climber with a good sponsership, but people like Nathan (aka - chossmonkey) are paying for most of it out of pocket. Mixed climbing is a subset of a subset of climbing disciplines. Show casing it in the olympics is a good way to bring attention to it.


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I was referring to the cost of rink time or a lift ticket.


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taylortreadgold wrote:
Honestly ice climbing is a million times more interesting than ice dancing. It makes a lot of sense to be involved as it is still a growing sport and the athletes are essentially "amateur" in the sense that they are not heavily financed by corporate sponsors.

Also rock climbing especially boudlering or speed climbing is much more interesting than some floor events in gymnastics.

I agree with the first half, and disagree with the second half of the above.

I have zero (is it possible to have less than zero? In that case, less than zero) interest in actually ice climbing, myself, personally. But if it were featured in the Olympics? Hell yeah, I'd watch that. I think it'd be cool to see. Wouldn't change my opinion of whether I want to do it, but I'd way rather watch that than, say, ice dancing or curling.

But I have very little interest in watching speed climbing (yawn) or bouldering in the Olympics. Those may be fun to watch in person, but on TV, forget it. I'd way rather watch gymnastics, or even wrestling - a sport that had such poor interest levels they tried to cut it from the Olympics.

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