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sonso45


May 3, 2011, 2:08 PM
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Re: [lazymonkey] Letter to John Sherman [In reply to]
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Oak Flat is still in public hands. RCM is mining all around it. We continue to enjoy access to all the areas in Queen Creek. Climb anywhere you like and camp at the campground anytime you like. But you better hurry.

The latest legislation proposing a land swap has just been introduced. I have yet to read it. I am sure it will follow previous incarnations.

I continue to oppose the mining method, as do many of my friends. The issue remains in doubt and we should continue to contact our legislators with our heartfelt desire to keep this beautiful area intact.


roninthorne


Dec 14, 2014, 4:08 AM
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Re: [curt] Sherman sells out AZ climbers on Queen Creek/Oak Flat ac [In reply to]
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Well, here is the thing about this particular mine site. Resolution Copper does not own the land--we do. That is to say, the Oak Flat campground is part of the Tonto National Forest. It is public land. Additionally, mining has been banned by Presidential Order at Oak Flat for the last 50 years, when President Eisenhower issued Public Land Order (PLO) 1229 in 1955.

Curt

And, just like that, we don't.

I wish I could still feel surprised.


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Jan 1, 2015, 1:29 AM
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roninthorne wrote:
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Well, here is the thing about this particular mine site. Resolution Copper does not own the land--we do. That is to say, the Oak Flat campground is part of the Tonto National Forest. It is public land. Additionally, mining has been banned by Presidential Order at Oak Flat for the last 50 years, when President Eisenhower issued Public Land Order (PLO) 1229 in 1955.

Curt

And, just like that, we don't.

Actually, Oak Flat is still public land and will be for at least several more years. The language in Section 3003 of Title XXX of the National Defense Authorization Act (what the Resolution Copper land exchange bill is now) calls for a full EIS to be done on the project BEFORE any public land can change title and transfer into RCM ownership.

The Access Fund, Sierra Club, Arizona Mining Reform Coalition, Concerned Citizens and Retired Miners of Superior, Center for Biological Diversity, Maricopa Audubon, San Carlos Apache Tribe, Inter Tribal Council of Arizona, National Congress of American Indians and many other interested parties will be fighting this for years to come.

Curt


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It took at least ten years for this to happen. Many AZ and other climbers have worked to keep this open since the mine was proposed. Many people are still actively working to mitigate the damage this mine will cause on our land.

Let's keep looking forward until the last straw is blown away. Let's keep using the area and show the people that really matter that we cherish Oak Flat. By using it we can keep this place alive.


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Currently, the San Carlos Apache are holding an Occupy Oak Flat encampment in Oak Flat Campground. If you would like to pay your respects while climbing there, they are an easy presence to spot. The first camp on the left in campground is their HQ.

The tribal members present invite all climbers to say hello, join in the afternoon sweat lodge or morning prayers (0900). Just ask about protocol and help us maintain a bastion against the devastation of Oak Flat.

All areas are still accessible and please be respectful while in the campground.

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