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rwaltermyer


Nov 29, 2001, 7:24 AM
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Have you been ascending all these problems kagunkie, or is it a big group of guys?

I'm waiting for directions
Randy


kagunkie


Nov 29, 2001, 7:36 AM
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Its just me, so far one other person knows where it is. Everything there has only been climbed by me except for the diagonal. It's like haveng a secret burryed treasure, nice to dig it up and just look at it. The directions will be available next spring/summer most likely.


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where is the "gold mine". no crowds?


rwaltermyer


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ITs awesome to know that there still are problems waiting to be found...

I posted a thought that there has to more climbing in the Poconos. I'm convinced that the northern part of PA hosts oddles of unfound areas (not big wall climbing, but some bouldering). Actually, when you take a look at it, places like Whiskey Springs and other spots located on the App. Trail, the only reason they were probably discovered was how many people use the trail. Keep hunting guys. With the exception of hunters, winter is definitely the past time to be running through the woods looking for rock because the woods are so open.
God Bless
Randy


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SECRET CRAGS???

Bwah-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-HA!!! [diabolical Dr. Evil laughter]

Why when I was a lad, we had some Secret Crags that were so secret we referred to them by code names in case anyone overheard us!

Metcalfe Rock we called "partridge crag"

Old Baldy in Kimberly we referred to as "trillium crag".

I do not remember what we called Lion's Head and White Bluff.

Of course, the reason we kept these places secret was so that other leading protagonist, Dave Smart, wouldn't beat us there and climb all the first ascents before we could!

At the time these cliffs appeared "remote", but now they are regular destinations for all Ontario climbers.

And sitting right in the middle of all of those crags, the bitchin'est sweetest bestest and beautifulest trad cracklines all bear one thing in common: f.a. Zabrok, Kaandorp and/or DeMaio.

Note: these climbs have modest grades of up to 10 or 11 only, but they are HARD. There are NO bolts. You need COURAGE not QUICK DRAWS to climb them.

20 years later they still spank ass, especially mine, which is getting fat.

Dave was the guidebook writer, and when we "sprung" Metcalfe, Old Baldy, Lion's Head and White Bluff on him with all of these awesome routes we had climbed and beat him to, he had a little surprise for us:

Cliff Barnes, Berlin Wall, Eugenia Falls, and a bunch of other places that HE had beat US to!!!!!

Of course, once we published these crags, Dave came along and climbed some stuff that we had tried and failed on!

Me and Dave are friends now, but it took some time and some forgiveness.

And that is some climbing history trivia from Ontario circa 1981-82.

So when it comes to the idea of Secret Crags, I definitely "get you"!

Bwah-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!!!!!!

Cheers,

Dr. Evil,

er, Dr. Satan,

er, Dr. Pete

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roclimb


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Kagunkie,
When can we get back to the Gold Mine?
We have to send those other problems.
How does next week during the week sound?
~Rob H.
P.S. I found some 40ft high gunks like boulders in the Pocconos this past week. We should do some stuff there also.


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roclimb,
Any of these in my backyard.


kagunkie


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he he he.... build it and they will come.....


kagunkie


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Yeah Rob be shure to call me!


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OK,
I'll give you a call Mon night sometime.
~Rob


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Ok...Keith...
I'm not asking for the whole world to know...just me! I've put tons of beta on here

How is South Mtn and Emmaus Boulders? are they worth it? Will they keep me busy until you tell me about Patriot?

God Bless
Randy


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Just in case you're serious about gold, near the top of P10 on the Excalibur is a pocket of pure white quartz about the size of a basketball (or bigger, further into the rock??). For those in the know, this is where California gold likes to hide. I was tempted to immediately begin mining operations, but at 2 pitches per day, we were already too slow.

Maybe THIS is how serious climbers can support themselves: finding the El Capitan Motherlode.

And using code names to keep it a secret.


rwaltermyer


Aug 5, 2002, 6:47 PM
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How about at least a teaser picture?
Randy


rwaltermyer


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...still waiting...patiently i add

randy


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Secret crags . . . Your'e cool. Don't put an area up on the routes section if you're not going to say anything about where it is.


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Way to go Kagunkie! You found a place, and it's yours until you want to tell people where it is. To the jealous ones... you can go look for it! Keep getting those FAs man, before someone finds you!


rwaltermyer


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rocknpowda...you need to understand that my nagging of Keith is half playful, half serious...i respect him, and his desicion. I would probably do the same if I knew I could get some FAs!

but soon would be nice, Keith, you said "the spring" Spring of 'o3?


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If there were a secret crag in Ohio and I didn't know where it was but I did know that you know, I would kill you as long as you dont know that I know that you know where this crag is.



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i'm with pete on this one...kieth what are you doing man??? and randy your begging is annoying!!!


rwaltermyer


Sep 6, 2002, 7:06 AM
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keep in mind....this begging has been over the course of NEARLY A YEAR!!!! So, when I get bored I click on Patriot, hoping to find it updated....

Hey....i don't want to piss anyone off in this (specifically Keith) I just wanted to antagonize a bit. Otherwise, you wouldnt keep it themself.

I respect his desicion.


rwaltermyer


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gosh...i hate to keep bugging...but its getting ridiculous.


rwaltermyer


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.....................................................................................................................................................................................................................................and waiting.


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You could get hit by someone driving a car at 110MPH who's using a cell phone and drinking a mocha latte from Borders--then all knowledge of the top secret location of the Patriot Boulders would slip into oblivion, perhaps for another 15,000 years or so. Or at least until the Lehigh Valley is completely defoliated. BTW: Do you think squirrels are a community?


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really i was going up to PA and looking for boulders near allentown. "great" i thought. perfect. d'oh no directions. i don't understand why you would post the place and say "it is a secret location and i will not tell you where it is until i want to" ... just don't post anything if the FA's mean that much to you or if you want to make a guidebook for it.... at any rate will the guy who made the post with the four gillion periods go edit some of thouse out, that's annoying. don't forget to let everyone know when you decide to give people directions... someone should delete that area i think if you will not post directions. could you imagine clutter like that permeating the routes db? it'd be a total bitch to try and find climbing in an unfamiliar area....


roclimb


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I know where it is but Keith would be real pissed if I told ya. Here is a hint it is basically in downtown Allentown.
~Rob

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