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catra


Feb 17, 2003, 12:51 PM
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Ammon McNeely and Brian McCray,
Speed climbed a route called Latitudes.
They did it in a push. 18:40.
They are the first to climb it in a day.

The previous record was 10 days.

Just talked to Ammon. He said they had a good time.
He said, he would call me with all the details, as soon as they got down to the base.

I'm sure he will post something about it.

Cheers,
Catra McNeely

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wow, that is a sick route and committing to do light, especially at this time of year. congratulations and much respect.


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my god isn't Latitudes that old Hollinger route that's like 5.10 A4+ ??!?

Ammon you are a friggin demigod. Flyin BRyan is not too shabby either. Mad props to you nutcases, you are at a totally other level of the game!


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Thanks for the props!!

Latitudes was first climbed by Paul Gagner and Eric Brand in 1994.

Wow!! These guys did a great job. That route is sick. We didn't quite know what we were getting into.

I think we did the fifth ascent, first one day ascent. I heard it was climbed in 6 days, but not sure.

It rained/hailed on us on the last three pitches. We summited at three o'clock in the morning. I have lot's of great pics and will build a page and report on our ascent. I'll post a link when I'm done.

I think this was the most significant ascent in Zion, since Moonlight was first freed.

I need my head examined.

Cheers, Ammon


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holy shiznit


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Holy crap - that's amazing!!! Props to Ammon & Brian. I can't imagine what it's like to climb at that level. Are you guys human? Nah, superhuman!!!!


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yep!! you need your head examined!!

congrats!

:)
T


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*It rained/hailed on us on the last three pitches. We summited at three o'clock in the morning.*

so you started at 8:30 AM? why not start predawn and top out sooner?

well done by the way


elcapbuzz


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Kalcario,

Have you seen the wall? It takes most people one day just to get to the base..... and then there is five really ugly approach pitches to get to the actual first pitch of Latitudes.

Here's another reason.

We left work at 10:pm... in Las Vegas. Went back to Brian's resoling shop. Racked up and then started driving to Zion around 12:30am.

We arrived in Zion at 4:00am... we lost an hour because of Mountain Time. We slept for six hours. Woke up, went and got our bivy permits, filled water, bought last minute items.... and started hiking around 2:30pm. Arrived at the ugly approach pitches around 5:00pm.

Started climbing.... got hit by several rocks, one a softball size right in the head/helmet. Got to the base of the wall around 11:00pm. Went to sleep around midnight. I set my alarm for 6:00am..... but forgot about the time switch.... so we actually woke up at 7:00am.

Drank coffee, stretched... and got psyched to start something VERY hard. We started climbing at 8:15am.

Well, you get the idea. We were pushing hard just to get to the start of the climb.

This will all be in my story.

Cheers, Ammon


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Hard for me to even imagine what these big wall speed ascents must take! Nice job Ammon and Brian. I'm looking forward to reading your TR.


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Congrats and I'm also looking forward to the TR


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Awesome job buddy. Way to put it out there and go big dude. Since Baffin didn't happen with you and Brian, at least you can "send" here in the states together. I just love all this new lingo.

TRADitionally yours,

Cali Dirtbag


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wow...congrats ammon and brian.

wow.


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I look to the East and I humbly bow in the direction of Ammon and Flyin Brian.
Cheers, I love livin in the Islands but wow sometimes I wish I could swim across this pond.
Bill


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Haa haa haa, funny Bill.

Thanks again Joe.... You were only off by one minute.

Prodigal in 2:36.

Check out this page I'm building:

http://www.rocknrun.net/speed.html

I need some more info..... please email/pm me with times/dates.

Looking forward to solid GRANITE..... and climbing "wall style" with onelung and my wife.

Cheers, Ammon

I LOVE YOU GUYS/GALS!!!!!!!


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Feb 24, 2003, 4:56 AM
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You guys are my heros. Amazing - and Brian hasn't been climbing that much, has he?

Brian was a key part of my via ferrata construction team. I did an interview with him for my web site a couple years ago: http://www.wvclimbing.com/news/flynbrian.html

Brian taking a break from hoisting bridge cables to put up a new route:

http://www.nelsonrocks.org/...ryan%20climb%201.jpg


rogueclimber


Feb 24, 2003, 11:19 PM
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CONGRATS GUYS!
I was cheering you on from the pub!! NICE!
TheOoze, By the way, Brian is an old pro and has climbed more than his share of SICK SICK ROUTES!
Cheers Brian & Ammon!
Gabe
I guess I'm a little slow tonight "TheOoze". I enjoyed Brians link. Cheers!


elcapbuzz


Feb 24, 2003, 11:31 PM
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Cool pic, Stu.

Oh.... no, Gabe I think Ooze meant Brian hasn't been climbing that much "lately".

Cheers, Ammon


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Tito, maybe you missed the fact that they logged those 3 times consecutively. Like right after the other. Like climb prodigal hike down trail, hitch ride to moonlight, climb that, hike down trail, hitch ride to Lunar X, and then climb that and hike down the trail. Say what you want but that is pretty bad ass if you ask me. I don't even think I could jug those routes that fast. And my knees ache at the thought of hiking down that trail 3 times in one day.

Ammon, are you still in Zion? I am leaving tonight and will be there till monday. If you are still there I would like to buy you a beer.


elcapbuzz


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Haa haa haa, Thanks Wigglestick, hope to meet you soon.

No, I'm back in the Bay Area, heading to JTree today, until the weekend.

Then.... to Yosemite.

No one is getting worked up here. Pinscar was just reporting a trip, sorry if it rubbed anyone the wrong way.

Wigglestick, props for your chime. However, I'd like to clear up something. We actually ran over to the top of Moonlight Buttress and simul-rapped the route (three times). To avoid running down the trail each time.

Tito, have your buddies contact me so I can add them to my page:

http://www.rocknrun.net/speed.html

Cheers, Ammon


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Feb 26, 2003, 12:32 PM
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>>I think this was the most significant ascent in Zion, since Moonlight was first freed.

Hmmm...compare to Streaked Wall (Stump/Anker)? Also, some of the "A" teams latest routes (DSOTM, etc)....

Unbelievable times! Wow wow wow.

Did you guys use cam hooks?

Brian in SLC


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yeah like i know that they did them in a row.

so like did uh my friends.

ammon, i know that they are little concerned with strokefests. they pretty much do it so they can get better, for their real objectives.

i have done moonlight and prodigal in a day. and i have space shot and prodigal in a day as well.

either way enjoy yourself.


elcapbuzz


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No, camhooks are BAD on sandstone trade routes.

Strokefest??? That's pretty shallow.

Ammon


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Mar 3, 2003, 2:11 AM
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gawd - hey good for you. do you also feel like a bigger person for trying to shoot someone else down?


ammon - thanks for sharing what an idea and some drive can accomplish!


elcapbuzz


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Thanks Alpinelynx,

>>I think this was the most significant ascent in Zion, since Moonlight was first freed.

Hmmm...compare to Streaked Wall (Stump/Anker)? Also, some of the "A" teams latest routes (DSOTM, etc)....

Brianinslc - I was talking about a repeat of a route, not an FA. Also, wasn't the Stump/Anker route the most controversial climb on Streaked Wall because of so many holes? (I was talking about our first one day ascent of the same walll).

If I would have posted about a trip report to Joshua Tree.... naming off a few routes I did.... let's say, Dogleg, Double Cross or Walk on the Wild Side.

Would it have been flamed? I don't think so. I think it's pretty cool and has a good personal touch that we get to read about ascents of ALL levels on this site.

Cheers, Ammon

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