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paintinhaler
Dec 17, 2001, 1:46 AM
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No more talk about bolts, its killing me.I jest wanted to point that out. Im a sport climber and have nothing wrong with them but im jest sick of talking about bolts. Are you?
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hangerlessbolt
Dec 17, 2001, 1:57 AM
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Ah, you see, by replying to your thread, we are in fact continuing to do so. Climb on!
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rrrADAM
Dec 17, 2001, 2:32 AM
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I think you subconciously want to continue, you even started a thread about it. rrrADAM
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aulwes
Dec 17, 2001, 2:40 AM
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What are you talking about noone on the website talks about bolts?!?? You must be thinking of another site!
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pianomahnn
Dec 17, 2001, 4:22 AM
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I have bolts in my pants.
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paintinhaler
Dec 17, 2001, 4:31 AM
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I feel like your being smart. You know what I mean about the bolt topics. I think you know you jest want to be stupid about it
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jaydoc
Dec 17, 2001, 4:38 AM
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What's a bolt?
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paintinhaler
Dec 17, 2001, 4:46 AM
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pianomahnn
Dec 17, 2001, 4:57 AM
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Uhm, I use bolts to make things.
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passthepitonspete
Dec 27, 2001, 3:44 PM
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Isn't it great that I no longer have to write that in certain defined situations, I believe that bolting may be indicative of cowardice and cheating? This would be unnecessary work, and I can merely link you there if you care how I feel about bolts, which you probably don't anyway!
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pianomahnn
Dec 27, 2001, 4:57 PM
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The hypocracy of your anti-bolting mentality, Pete, rivals that of a man-hating-woman's rights activist being a housewife. You've placed a piton before, correct? Ugly suckers if you ask me. And DAMN do they do a number on the rock. It sure is nice when people try to rationalize their own actions to make themselves feel better while trying to make the other, equally quilty party feel bad about themselves. Your damage to a rock is just the same as anyone who bolts, Pete. And I love the aid climbers and sport climbers all the same. Whatever way one wants to ascend up a rock is their own choice. Blah Blah Blah...why the hell am I'm talking about bolts again? You've dragged me in!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH [edited because my ahhh made the screen wacky] [ This Message was edited by: pianomahnn on 2001-12-27 08:58 ]
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phil_nev
Dec 27, 2001, 5:10 PM
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is it just me or am i gettin mixed messages from every1 about what climbing is all about????? I had a chat to compclimber the other day, he gave me some very good advice adn sort of gave me a clearer idea of what climbing should be about. I love to climb, anywhere, anything, big and small, i will climb things i know i cant just to see if i can, i wwill also climb things i know are well below my skill level. I hate all this S#$t aboutsport or trad, should we bolt, people who complain about other styles of climbing.... I have onbly been here 2 months, and i'm sick to death of it. Climb because u love it, wherether it be a 5.14b, or climbing out of bed (very much of a struggle for me), but just climb... Now i know i'm ranting, but i thought id give an example to back up my popint... Every1 i have met since begining to climb has been sooooo freindly, all u guys on this site rock, but just chill with the critisism... I was climbing at Mt arapiles in victoria, just top roping, a group of climbers game past and began to haras us caus we wernt climbing the way the liked, trad i think, but what the f*&k does that achieve??? I climb caus i love it, i wish all these climbers could just realise that it at about the style u climb but wheter or not u put ur heart into it just caus u love it.....
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pianomahnn
Dec 27, 2001, 5:34 PM
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That's my point, but there are those out there who can't accept all forms of climbing. It's one of those things you'll have to deal with. And what a sad thing to deal with it is. Oh welk, I'm happy.
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rockclimberdude
Jan 2, 2002, 11:11 PM
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Wes, no offense but your stupid
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ryanguy
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No offense rockclimberdude but it is spelled you're not your. I don't think Wes is the one who is stupid. [ This Message was edited by: ryanguy on 2002-01-14 15:21 ]
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paintinhaler
Jan 17, 2002, 2:14 AM
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what is it Bob? I think it's rockclimberdude... Thanks for backing me up on this one Ryanguy
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paintinhaler
Jan 18, 2002, 8:30 AM
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that was funny
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rastalizard
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Don't know if this one has been done before,but when bolting new routes what is a good distance between bolts? Some routes have bolts ever 2 metres and some every 4 or 5 metres.I find the second kind more fun as there is more of a lead,and more skill I think.But I feel more comfortable when pushing things on well bolted routes. Let me hear some of your opinions.......
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theamish
Feb 19, 2002, 4:01 PM
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There are many factors that come into play on bolt placement ........ if you prefer climbing on routes that have bolts 4 meters apart but there are bolts every 2 meters you can blow by every 2nd bolt if you want to. No law says you have to use them just because they are there.
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rastalizard
Feb 19, 2002, 4:39 PM
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Point taken,but if you are opening new routes for everyone to climb what would you use as a guideline. Those bolts will be stuck in our rock for a long time so I would like to do it right. Where can I get more info on the many factors that come into bolt placement?
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sidepull
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Take the following into account went placing bolts: 1) the rock the bolt will be placed in must be solid. 2) the second bolt cannot be farther from the first bolt than the first bolt is from the ground (you shouldn't be able to deck from the second bolt). 3) consider the difficulty of the route. If you're a 5.12 climber but you're bolting a 5.9 route you need to bolt it for a 5.9 climber. This usually means closer spacing and bolt placement aligned with holds that allow for easy clipping. As mentioned above there are no hard rules. Each route varies because of rock quality, route difficulty, and the line of the route.
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