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chief


Jan 3, 2002, 8:19 AM
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i was looking in climbaxe.com the other day and saw congo draws and biners.what is the deal are they good or are they just cheap as hell.ive been climbing for 6 years and have seen 1 congo biner in that time and it wasnt mine so i dont know whether or not it was good or it broke in half the next time the dude used it.In climbaxe i saw 10 draws for 60 bucks,something has got to be wrong with that picture,but maybe not.HELP

PEACE N8


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Jan 3, 2002, 8:30 PM
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my ice axe, crampons, and helmet are all kong. i also have 5 draws and 10 biners, (38 bucks for 10. WOW) i have been very, very happy with their performance. my ice axe in particular is outstanding, and i would reccommend one to anybody who is looking for a great one without shelling out a lot of cash.


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hey fellas that is great,i finally get some advice on this stuff and it turns out good,that will help my wallet,thanks again and happy new year.

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Attention all Americans If you want cheap gear buy it from the Mountain Equipement Co Op here in Canada, they have a mail order, and with your dollar the way it is you will get all the top of the line gear at almost half the price, their site is www.mec.ca, you guys are going to love me !!


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are those in US or CAD dollars?


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Most gear that you order from MEC cannot be mailed to the U.S. The retailers here bitch that they are losing money by Americans shopping and saving there. I'm a two hour drive from the Toronto MEC so it's not a problem to go a couple times a year.

Daryl

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Ever wonder why American gear is more expensive? Because of all the Union control over the labor in this country-prevailing wages, cost of doing business, payroll taxes, workmen's comp requirements by the govt, etc.I guess this political tirade belongs in a different forum so I'll stop for now. BD Enduro quickdraws can be found for about $10 each and they are pretty good quality for that price. Do you think American companies price themselves out of customers on purpose?


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Traide, which ice axe did you get? Have you tried their gaiters? And how long did it take for your stuff to arrive after you ordered it?


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acmeclimbing.com has draws as low a $9 each, I just recieved a few that i ordered to see what they are like and they seem like good draws.
Faders is a Spanish company that has been making carabiners since 1958. They are ISO 9001 certified and manufacture all there equipment to meet and exceed CE and UIAA certifications.
you can choose wire gate or solid gate. Anyone know anything good or bad about these before i buy more?

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I noticed that most of you on this thread are relativelyl new to posting on this site, so maybe you are also new-ish to the site in general. There are at least two great gear websites that have been mentioned in some other forum threads: www.sportextreme.com and www.barrabes.com

The first one is British, and the second is Spanish. Both will display prices in U.S. dollars; SportExtreme has a free "membership" that you sign up for with your email address, and that gives a few bucks more off the prices.

Whoever said that the U.S. seems to be paying too high prices is dead on; just look at the prices on these European sites for the exact same name-brand products. I also recommend very highly the Tenaya brand of climbing shoe offered on Barrabes.com; same high quality as bigger names. Shipping is cheap, and quick, and there is no Value Added Tax (VAT) up to $200 (I think; it could kick in at $100, but the order process will tell you that).


traide


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My ice axe was $40, I bought it at a shop in Salt Lake City called Recreation Outlet. (they have a site, I think, but I'm not sure if you can order from them.) The model was the Glace Inox axe.


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I've never actually tried the gaiters...
The site is http://www.recreationoutlet.com/


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Thanks for the info Traide


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hey chief, i use all hardwear store biners and love them. they are a little harder to clip sence you have to twist that little thing a lot but they get the job done. they were only 2.50 a piece and with a seat belt i stole out of a junk yard for a harness i get the job done. next time i am in the ville you can check them out, maybe we can trade.


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