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krillen


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Okay there is a lot of talk of shooting slide. How do you do this? Can you use a regualr SLR camera or do you need a different one, or an adapter of some sort? And how do you get them to digital format once you have them in slides?

Can someone let me in on the basics?


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slide film is also less forgiving than print film meaning your exposure has to be right on the money or you won't get a usable image. The best way to digitize slides is to have them scanned to a CD at the time of processing which usually isn't too expensive or buy a proper slide scanner and do it yourself.


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I was at Belle Arte, on Upper Ottawa (krillen knows where that is ) while the Minolta digital rep was there and saw the new slide scanners with the Rock & Gem technology. They're pretty nice and not too costly. I'd say you're looking at about $2K for a slide scanner though.

check out the two scanners on this page



Krillen, although their prices are high, Henry's in Toronto (on Church st.) has a good selection of camera equip with a huge digital section. It's worth checking out if you're in the area.

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$2K??? No way! Unless you want to print from the transparency there's no way you need to spend that much. I bought an HP scanner made specifically for projection scans (negatives & slides: it projects light through the image to sensors on the other side) and it only cost $599 at Future Shop! I looked around at Polaroid, Nikon, Agfa, you name it, and if you're just scanning for web applications than you can get by just fine with the HP. If I want a file that is printable, I send my slides to Vancouver where a place called The Lab does an incredible job scanning & printing at a reasonable price and these are gallery quality so I leave it up to them to spend the big bucks on a scanner. Just don't resort to an "add on" to a flat bed scanner or you'll be sorely disappointed.


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the easiest and cheapest way to get great quality is to bring it to a pro camera shop or printing lab and they can scan them to CD for less than 75cents a slide. Otherwise, a nikon coolscan 4000dpi is about 1700$, which is probably what small pro photo labs use.
And when you use slide film on an SLR, depending greatly on cameras light meter and film, slide film generally looks better when slightly underexposed.
hope it helps
r zahn


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pinscar,
I use an HP S20 scanner & I scan at 600dpi initially and then compress the file later with Fireworks. The scanning software that comes with the HP isn't bad but you need to get used to it or else you end up with some funky results.


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Don't forget, I live in Canada so multiply your costs by a gajillion or so.


Oh, wait, you're in canada too. w00ps, nvm.

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Is slide processing really less expensive?

Won't most people have to go through two development cycles (develop film to slide, transfer slide to paper) to get a photo they can show (assuming we aren't touring universities and giving slide presentations on our recent travel adventures).


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According to some images I had processed at Kodak:

Eastman Kodak Company
Kodak CLAS Digital Film Scanner / HR200
Kodak Digital Central Lab System
2002:01:19 08:31:17



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sidepull: you're right about the double dipping but one thing to bare in mind is that you won't be printing all of your slides, just the ones you feel are good enough...you end up with a much smaller collection of printed material but it's usually much higher callibre work anyway. Slides are great for inspiring people to get off there butts and go climbing because the impact of someone pulling a killer move on an eight foot screen is way higher than on a 4"x5" print so you'll be doing your friends a favour by shooting slides. At our local cinema we always show slides before the show and you should hear the reactions of the audience when they see one of us stuck to a rock face in Jtree: the twenty foot long image is quite a treat! A few good pics can inspire a lot of people and that's probably the most satisfying part of presenting your work to others: to inspire them to do what you love and for them to come and share the adventure!


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The slide show is definitely cool for viewing, color, texture, etc., but you do miss out on the photo album factor.

I shoot both depending on my mood.



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Saltspringer is right about the add-on slide scanners. They suck! Most of my good photos on this site were originally slides. I had prints made from them by The Slideprinter in Denver. The Slideprinter does awesome work and is cheaper than any other lab I have checked out. I had several 16x24 prints made from 35mm slides and they are as sharp as can be. Anyway, I get good quality 4x6 prints made from the slides and then scan them on my flatbed and they turn out pretty well.

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jm,
you should be able to purchase a digital file burned to CD when you get your enlargements: they tend to be better qaulity than a flatbed scan and the lab can usually use them again for any future enlargements so you don't have to risk sending your original slide back!


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I recently purchased a Nikon CoolScan IV. This gadget is AMAZING. It retails for $899. but you can get it for around $720. 2,900 dpi, scans slides and negatives, color and monochrome. It has an amazing Digital ICE feature that restores old and damaged negatives. I still can't believe the difference that this scanner can make. E-mail me if you would like to see a comparison of an old, beat-up slide and the restoration (which the scanner does automatically if you select it and takes less then 2 minutes).

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V

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Salt... Thanks, I'll look into that. Have you ever had work done by The Slideprinter?
They do absolutely awesome work and the mailers and shipping are postage free. Their
enlargements have won me quite a few ribbons at the Mid-State Fair in CA.


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JM...with the pathetic exchange rate we get for our dollar, it's better to keep business North of the border. I use a lab in Vancouver called (of course) The Lab: they're a professional outfit and provide CD's & scans and do enlargements up to 40"x50"! I use them for gallery work especially since the clarity of image and faithfulness to source image is unparalleled by any other lab I've dealt with in the past. For B&W, I go to the basement and work in my darkroom...what a luxury!


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I find the best way and most anoying way to get your slides printed is to find yourself a freind who is either a graphic designer or owns a decent transperncie scanner and knows how to colour correct in photoshop. I constantly scanning stuff for freinds then fixing it up because of uncalibrated equipment.


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