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kriso9tails
Dec 30, 2001, 5:16 AM
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I don't know, what's wrong with dynamite fishing?
I could honestly see it both ways (chipping, not dynamite fishin'), but I still believe it should not be done. I just feel (note: feel, I have no proof) that it's too high impact on both the climbing environment and nature. If you want sculpted routes go to a gym. Also, think about the 14s and possible 15(s) that have been sent. Somebody could have chipped them and brought them down to an easier grade, but then wherwould that leave us?
Rock breaks and bolts are placed, but I think that chipping is pushing the line from sport into defacement. Maybe I'm just a big hypocrite.
By and by... this came up before.
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paintinhaler
Dec 30, 2001, 5:34 AM
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WTF guys I dont understand I guess you were trying to be funny. Hehe
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rrrADAM
Dec 30, 2001, 7:07 AM
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Seems to be a lot of SPAM today... Maybe b.com is down again. Or maybe the Internet Star Trek Convention was cancelled and some people have no other place to go, so the 'beamed' over here.
Welcome to RC.com Trekies, we welcome all kinds here.
rrrADAM
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compclimber
Dec 30, 2001, 7:40 AM
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Haha Adam, I thought the same thing. Bouldering.com (well actually offthedeck.com) is up and running. Must be a trekkie convention then, or they have already started drinking since its a three day weekend.
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pushfurther
Dec 30, 2001, 8:30 AM
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how come when people post trash here you think its a b.com raid?
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ratstar
Dec 30, 2001, 4:06 PM
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Cause we know you pushfurther! Of coarse I am just kidding. but alot of people from b.com do it.
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passthepitonspete
Dec 30, 2001, 4:59 PM
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When I chip my routes, I make the holds pretty deep. Then after I climb it, I fill the holds in, but just a bit. You have to be careful how you do it.
Then - here's the really sneaky part - after you fill in the BIG chipped holds that you used, you chip other smaller holds next to them! Then people think you're really bitchin' cuz they can't believe you used holds so small.
Add a bolt every three-four feet, and it's perfect.
Anyway, gotta sharpen up the ol' chis', and charge up the Bosch........
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maxx
Dec 30, 2001, 5:23 PM
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What??? PTPP chipping holds? what's the climbing world coming to
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pushfurther
Dec 30, 2001, 8:13 PM
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i will go postal..
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bart
Dec 30, 2001, 11:35 PM
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I don't like chipping routes either. Why don't you just leave the rocks as they are? Maybe someone else will climb it once, the first 5.16 or so...
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tangboy
Dec 31, 2001, 12:17 AM
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chipping? what ever... i try not to alter nature as much as possible.... especially if its something like chipping... just not cool.
tang
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sizzlechest
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yeah you can chip with a chisel but hey that's way too much work, I prefer to back a cement truck up to the crag, dump 8 cubic metres of the stuff, then called out the italian cement finishes to work their magic and sculpt the face to their desire, while in the background I have nazereth playing for inspiration, while I drink colt 45 out of a brown bag and supervise, oh and you'll need to cut down a whole bunch of trees to allow room for the cement truck !!
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blimpdriver
Dec 31, 2001, 12:39 AM
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I'm on the chipping police force...don't do it!
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joemor
Jan 24, 2002, 4:34 AM
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combine the two.......... dynamite holds
works for me
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addiroids
Jan 24, 2002, 4:58 AM
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I personally chip routes. It goes along with our (Wallhammer and me) new Environmental Ethic we developed:
Leave a Trace Camping
The motto is:
Take only artifacts. Leave only beer cans
As Salaam Alakem,
Addiroids
Please someone catch the sarcasm in my (and Pete's) post or you are all seriously ig'nant.
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metoliusmunchkin
Jan 25, 2002, 12:20 AM
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I, like many other climbers, do not receive the same satisfaction of the ascention of a chipped route, as oppose to a virgin (pure) route. In my opinion, the entire purpose of climbing, is to overcome nature's natural resources, in this case being, rock. I am truly against chipping holds upon a route.
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graniteboy
Jan 25, 2002, 12:35 AM
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BORING Trolling has remained slow as hell on this topic, ain't it boys??? This post's been out there quite awhile, and no real takers.
I suggest you quit wasting your time and head on back to offthedeck. Or startrek.com. Or whatever hole you crawled out of.
Bon Voyage.
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nessy
Jan 25, 2002, 2:16 AM
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i have chipped holds for years now but i have moved on to a better method. i like to drill a bunch of holes in a untouched face and mount some steel bracing to it,put some plywood on that, and mount my holds so i can move them around. then i can have the comforts of a gym but nestled in the great outdoors.
i also like to go out and by the most expensive big ass locker i can find so my keys don't get lost.
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galt
Jan 25, 2002, 3:00 AM
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GREAT IDEA NESSY! What tool do you guys use to chip with? I use my chisel, but it's hard to hold myself up while I'm chiseling my first hold. HELP!?! Finally what do you guys use to mark your chips? I end up forgetting where they are and just have to chip new routes every time. Thanks for all your help.
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beyond_gravity
Jan 29, 2002, 3:58 AM
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If you bring a cordless drill, you can get these disc things to put on, wich can cut though rock quite easily, making super positive holds, with minimul impact. But hey, well your at it, making dessert gold into a layback, you can drill bolts in too!
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darkside
Jan 29, 2002, 5:35 AM
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Oh my g....What the f***. I can't believe anyone would chip holds. It just does not make sense to try to alter the rock when there is the challenge of using whats there already. If I can't do a route without chipping, why all I have to do is get my ice tools and change the regular picks for the diamond impregnated carbide tipped picks. Then all you have to do is work your way up the hard sections by swinging the tools hard. The tiny holes left by the picks are hardly noticable but regular monopoint crampons work just dandy in the tiny pick holes.
It's way more ethical than chipping!!!
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rocmonkey
Jan 29, 2002, 7:28 AM
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chipping
Personally I feel it is wrong. Once again I FEEL it is wrong because proof is absent.
I would never do it. Sad that it happens.
breathe stone (chips)
R C
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elcapbuzz
Jan 29, 2002, 8:11 AM
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Bwwaahaaaha Haa haa ha You guys are a crack up!! Chipping holds?? Nice gag.
You know though, some young gun might not think it's a joke and think that chipping is Ok.
If your not joking. May your soul be damned in HELL!!!!
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crackwhore
Jan 29, 2002, 8:14 AM
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yeah and then i think i'll give myself a Q, rating vote of 10 on my first post...
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crackwhore
Jan 29, 2002, 8:22 AM
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ive got a new ethic...
its called retro chip sportdog hyper clean.
first i chip up the route ( using removable bolts and hooks ) then, cuz bolts are cheating i dont leave any behind and use little dots of spray paint to show you where the R.B. holes are.
i think this is a much better ethic than those sissy bolt sprayers.
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