Are you suggestioning that because andrew WAS a moderatory that he should be CENSORED :shock: ? Let it all out Andrew, you're one of us now. :wink:

I have a canker sore in my mouth and I keep poking at it with my tounge, but that's only making it worse!

I complained about this reprehensible practice after my post regarding beer and bouldering disappeared after one day.

because the last thing we need is another mob scene and lynching.

Are we allowed to read Catcher in the Rye?

DMT

However, with the way in which this was handled, you have reaped what you have sown. Removing a forum after getting in a public pissing match brings the conspiracy theorists out of the wordwork and causes bad feelings all around. Hinting at inappropriate and even illegal behaviour on a poster's part in a public forum without backing it up with facts or proof is totally out of line(even if you say it is to protect other posters anonymity). Posting private messages and drumming up ill will towards the poster is just not kosher when you are an admin.

I don't mean to criticize unfairly(hindsight is 20-20 and it is easier to know what to do when aren't responsible for doing it). For better or worse, when you are a website administrator and wield that power you are held to a different, higher level of conduct. Better to either stay out of the flame war so you can moderate it without the appearance of prejudice, or handle it discreetely with the offending party and let outside people know what is happening without getting into the ugly specifics.

Removing a forum after getting in a public pissing match brings the conspiracy theorists out of the wordwork...

Here's a productive suggestion: Remove any power by mods to delete or edit threads or individual posts. Mods have always had the power to move threads, which is fine, but they shouldn't be able to move individual posts. These powers should be the absolute last resort and only excercisable by an admin after proper consideration.

If a mod sees a thread going "bad", they should have the power to lock the thread pending review. If it appears to be "objectional material (i.e. porn) then the thread should be locked so it can't be read by users pending review. That way, everything is always intact, as written by users, and can be dealt with properly.

Go ahead and post our PM's, I don't give a fuck.

Dig your method to bypass the filter!!

I'd like to get some feedback on this too. This is a simple, workable reform that should be put into effect immediately. Does anyone disagree?

.... (In fact posts themselves don't get deleted anymore; they get marked as 'suppress' in case they need to be resurrected for exactly this type of situation).

(snip) All of the involved posts are actually still in the database; I am trying to determine unequivocally what happened (snip)

Moreover, I want to get full auditing set up for the process so that this never happens again.

We don't have any issue on Bluto's post, as it doesn't need any thought...

You have a problem with somethjng in which he stated in a public thread that has been discussed in many public threads here on this site. So to use your exact words Stu... "he 'is paraphrasing' what he has read here, and believes to be true."

Can you follow that ??? Just because you did not get the response you wanted does not mean that there is a conspiracey... Unfortunately, the many times that Stu has not gotten his way here, he has thropwn a fit, and all the same "buzzwords" I noted on a previous page in this thread. If you disagree, please tell me just one instance where you did not get your way, and were OK with it. Just one brutha... Shouldn't be hard if you were able to dig up a long lost post by Andrew. :roll:

In addition to dubious behavior noted above you have committed some reprehensible acts regarding women on this site, the details of which many are aware.

Persons with little or no ethics or integrity have no right to question others.

Hate posts and personal attacks will not be tolerated on the Rockclimbing.com Forums. Treat others on these message boards as you would like to be treated. Personal attacks on another user are a great way to earn some time off, as is posting inflammatory material specifically to provoke a negative response from someone (aka trolling). If you are unclear about what a 'troll' is, an excellent description can be found here.

While we realize that this can become somewhat subjective, excessive mudslinging (not debate, but unbridled flaming) drives away many users - we are not trying to stifle debate, but users whose behavior consistently reduces the overall value of the site (to its owners, advertisers, and users) are not welcome.

Just tell me this. Where do the ducks go in winter???

PLEASE (I'm begging dude, where's the begging smiley?), show me just one example here where you did not get your way, and dit not throw a tantrum... JUST ONE !!!

That's simple Stu... There are many more Mods than Admins, and they are almost always online... If someone comes to the site and as just one example, SPAMs the site with "outwar" links to build their character, like has been done numerous times before, they need to be able to delete them.