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Boxcar Rocks, PA Do you know anything about it?  (North_America: United_States: Pennsylvania: Southeastern_Region: Boxcar_Rocks__aka_Chinese_Wall_)
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Does anyone know anything about Boxcar Rocks in Pine Grove, PA? Do you climb there regularly? Have you climbed the whale?


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Rob (roclimb) had pictures at one of his slideshows and they looked really cool. Pine Grove is pretty far for me to travel though.


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I was there last Sunday...the formations were cool and the climbing was fun. It actually looks like it has potential for a PA gathering. (I have to check camping etc...It is State game land). Just wondering if many people climb there and if the routes are documented. I added stuff to the database under temporary names until I can get my hands on documentation.


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Lets see here. I know rwaltermyer knows alot about Boxcar Rocks. He would be the person to speak to about it, thats what I would do. He will see this pm of mine and hopefully won't get mad being that I used him as a reference online. Me in the other hand, I know nothing about this crag but would like to check it out. Gail, we should hook up for this place and check it out. Whatda say?


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Gail,
I can give you the scope. Thats the closest climbing I have in my neck of the woods. One way to describe it: pebble conglomerate. Imagine tons of gardening stones concreted onto the rock. Thats what it is; if you'd ever bouldering at the wall of infinity, its the same way (but more extreme.)

The climbing is about 40-45 ft. Mostly TR, although I guess you could trad lead (but those pebbles could pop at any minute) the same w/ sport possibility (do you trust drillling thru those)...

But there is an afternoon's worth of routes there if you stay creative and motivated. Again, we;re in PA, you know what to expect: not much.

http://newenglandbouldering.com/covers/boxrocks.jpg
this is the arete to the wall, which continues to the right


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The whale formation at Boxcar has a nice 5.6 on it called Moby Neil. The gear isn't that great but there is a fixed anchor on it. There are nice cracks, also in the 5.7 to 5.8 range. If need any specific names grades there just let me know. The bouldering there is fantastic!
~Rob


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I thought I saw a thread on them one time where someone mentioned (Randy?) that there was very heavy undergrowth around the rocks. Am I thinking of the same place?

ChuckH


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undergrowth: not that bad.

to rob: did you realize how long the bouldering possibilites extend? the "wall" continues for almost three miles. (However, I discovered this not by walking along side the wall, but biking the mining trail which wraps around and runs parallel.) Not sure if its the exact same band or not, nonetheless, there is a LOT more rock up there to find cool lines.


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WOW:
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That's awesome!


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Rob...I will post the route and grades if you send them to me. I thought the place was cool, would like to go back and check out more climbs. We only had time for 2 climbs.


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gail:
you're in my territory: good 'ol lebanon Counnnnnty

hhahaha
i live 15 minutes from boxcar (when i'm not in skool)


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Randy, I was there on Sunday with Perry Allen (he lives 30 miles from there). Do you know Perry?


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Sounds like I really need to get directions there.. can anyone give me directions from fredericksburg, or a way to use mapquest? etc... Thanks.


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Start: Fredericksburg, Lebanon, Pennsylvania, United States
End: Gold Mine Rd, Halifax, PA 17032
Total Distance: 14.1 Miles
Estimated Total Time: 38 minutes

Directions Miles Map
Start: Depart Fredericksburg, Lebanon, Pennsylvania, United States on Doe Alley (North) < 0.1
1: Bear LEFT (West) onto (E) Main St 1.1


2: Bear RIGHT (West) onto Lickdale Rd 3.4
3: Turn RIGHT (North) onto SR-1001 2.8


4: Bear RIGHT (North) onto SR-443 1.6
5: Bear LEFT (North) onto Gold Mine Rd 5.1


End: Arrive Gold Mine Rd, Halifax, PA 17032


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I'll have to map it out on a roadmap, and in reply to your pm, yes I have school. I am in a programming in VB.NET 3hour class and I am so far ahead of them, like 250 pages that I just sit back and rest sometimes...


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hang on.

Greg, its only 10-15 minutes to Boxcar.

I just posted Lat. Long. in the Dbase....that should be sufficient....including my directions.


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But what does lat, long do for me? I don't have a gps unfortunately.


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click on it...it'll take you to topozone.com so you can figure out where the climbing is.


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Ahhhh! Thats kinda cool!


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Gail: Did you use the two old shuts at the top to climb the one route (supposedly an 11)? I think there are a few bolts on the way up too.

and like you said, I usually take big lengths of static, because unless you bring a trad rack, TRing there is a bit of an adventure.

randy


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Randy, No we did not use the shuts. We used static line and set up an anchor on the opposite side of the rock. It worked very well. WOuld love to have a bolting party...what do you think?


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oh definitely...but (not having ANY experience in bolting), would you trust the nature of the rock (drilling into pebbles). But atleast putting in some bomber shuts up top would be nice.

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also, were the directions ok? did you use them from the dbase?
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randy


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Randy, we followed Perry Allen in. Although i think your directions are fine. Mitchal knows how to bolt...yeah the pebbles could be a problem.

Gail
PS where are youy climbing this weekend?


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If anyone would be willing to meet me there one sunday soon, I would appreciate it if you could show me how to use all the different types of equipment and anchor stuff, etc. Like I said before I'm really new and I went to a gym and loved it. All I have for equipment so far is a package I got off ebay, a harness, a locking screw gate biner, SBGII Belay/Rappel Device, but I have a little more money to get some stuff... But right now unfortunately I have to send out 250 for a tank for my paintball gun.. But anyhoo, October 12 was the day I was hoping for. My girlfriend also is getting started in climbing, well she kinda got me into it :) so she might come too..


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Randy-Thats a good tip to take the road that parallels the rock. It gets a little vegitated the farther down the ridge you go. Yes it is the same ridge for 3-miles. I developed a lot of boulder problems all the way down to the reservoir some years back.

That is an old photo I took that you posted. It s a picture of a highball prob called One Man's Thimble, it tops out on Moby Neil. Where did you get a hold of that?

You guys know there is a sister area to boxcar rocks that a few miles away right?

~Rob

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