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Feb 15, 2002, 5:14 PM
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86ed  (North_America: United_States: Utah: St__George: Crawdad_Canyon)
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I got kicked out because they wouldn't let me solo. You can't smoke on the deck. Also, don't bring cams-THESE CRACKS ARE BOLTED! This could have been a place similiar in ways to Paradise Forks. I guess the dollar bill is more important that ethics. I can't wait till I do my next El Cap route and there's a plague glued and bolted to the base of the route. (That was sarcasm!)
-tda


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Feb 15, 2002, 5:29 PM
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Where????

Are you talking about Crawdad Canyon?

That place is a joke. I used to go there as a kid to swim at the pool. I scrambled up nearly every wall there before I was ten. Haa haa, I bet they didn't know that.

I guess I would have been 86ed, as well.

Cheers, Ammon


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Jan 6, 2003, 6:09 PM
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One thing that you are failing to realize is that crawdad canyon is on private property. The guy who founded it didn't plan on making it a climbing park. Climbers asked if they could throw some routs up, and the guy loved the idea enough to spend thousands of dollars from his own pocket helping to develop it. If soloing was ok and if you fell while doing it, you could easily sue the owners for not making the park safe for it's guests. It's a family place also, think if a kid starts soloing and falls, the owners would be help resposible, and the parents would most likeley sue them out of buisness. Would a climbing gym let you go on any route you wanted with out a rope? As far as sport climbing is concerned it's awsome, but if you want an adventure go some where else, not in some guys back yard.


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Jan 6, 2003, 6:15 PM
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yeah, if its on private property, you have to respect the owners. Be thankful they at least let you climb on THEIR property


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Jan 6, 2003, 6:17 PM
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AGreed, Crawdad is a nice place to climb. You want to climb there, respect the rules. It is a privelage to climb on HIS private property. I wish more private land owners would allow climbing with strict rules.

It a hell of a lot better than standing on the otherside of a barb wire fence looking at a cool cliff that were not allowed to go near. (Been there many times )


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