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psirro
Oct 17, 2003, 5:12 PM
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whats your opinion about the rock climbing gear on this site! is it worth someone buy stuff from there?
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icelandwinky
Oct 17, 2003, 5:17 PM
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I have bought gear from ebay before but as with buying any used gear its kind of a crap shoot. When buying from ebay you can't touch the equipment to thoroughly inspect it. If you do buy from ebay be sure to inspect the gear (whatever it might be) very very good when you get it to make sure that it is in good condition before you use it. You must also ask yourself.." do i want to trust my life to a piece of used gear?". just my .02
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dontfall
Oct 17, 2003, 5:22 PM
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The only way I'm going to buy gear is from Ems, REI or some type of store that sells climbing gear in which I know it is safe. Hell with putting my life on the line with someone else's gear. Why risk it?
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tallelk
Oct 17, 2003, 5:24 PM
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I have bought some gear from ebay. The items that I purchased were new and I did not have any problems with them. Used gear on the other hand I agree with the above. I do not like to purchase used gear unless (A) I can visually inspect the pieces in my hand or (B) I know the person selling it. Just my opinion
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brianthew
Oct 17, 2003, 5:45 PM
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I've bought non-critical climbing gear from ebay, such as crampons, ice tool picks, etc. I wouldn't buy rope, webbing, or pro from ebay. The stuff's too important not to inspect it "in person."
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rokshoxbkr19
Oct 17, 2003, 6:37 PM
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If you only buy gear from EMS or REI then you are as stupid (sorry, no offense meant) as some of those people who pay 50 -100 bucks more than any gear is worth when they buy it on EBAY. The only shopping I do is online at sites like Acme or Gearexpress where good, new gear is bought cheap. Ebay climbing gear almost never sells for a bargain, it usually sells more expensive then new gear and used gear is always a risk.
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corpse
Oct 17, 2003, 6:42 PM
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I bought a box full of stuff that I was pleased with.. Full set of hugh banner cams (wish they were camalots), and a couple full sets of nuts (wired and dyneema), and a set of stoppers.. some quickdraws and a new bag of chalk. all equipment looks to be in new condition, with 1 cam looking like it was set once or twice.. no marks in any of the passive pro. Cost me around 3 bills - which according to list prices, all this stuff is prolly around 5-600. the hugh banner cams, for a full set, seem to cost like 350-400? Another 72 retail for the wild country hexes. I don't think I'd buy a rope, webbing or slings or anything like that. the dyneema on the pro (as stuff on the cams) seems to be fine since the pro is in such nice shape.. I know you have to worry about chemicals getting on that stuff. So you can get decent deal, just gotta be patient and lucky.
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pico23
Oct 17, 2003, 9:51 PM
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In reply to: whats your opinion about the rock climbing gear on this site! is it worth someone buy stuff from there? Ebay is a money pit. It's a great resource for people living in the sticks without access to climbing shops, ect. but take a look at the ending prices on most gear and you'll notice little savings over new gear. If you just take the time that you waste watching you bid on ebay and shop around the internet you can usually find great deals on new or blemished items. Basically EBAY is a sellers market. People get caught up in the bidding and often pay much more than they'd have payed if it was on a clearance rack or consignement shop. Add that too the fact that you have to wait 3-10 days from item entry to end to see if you might win and you can get frustrated really fast. I've gotten a few great deals on Ebay but I've also payed too much for a few things. Overall, I'd say I've broken even. Just keep in mind that sometimes things get bid up by people who have no intention of paying, or people that are pissed you outbid them. In the end you lose. I've actually done this myself. I really wanted an item and I had watched it for several days where I had the high bid. During the last hour some guy comes and places a higher bid and I got pissed that someone would pay more than actually value of the item and I incremenetally bid up about $20 seeing what there maximum bid was. At the $20 point I stopped because I did not want the item at that price and I knew I'd end up winning it. So that person lost $20 because I got caught up in the whole "I'm gonna be a winner routine." On the flip side I'm sure that the same thing has happened to me as a winning bidder. And I've had people bid on items I was selling with no intention to pay leaving me to pay the auction cost and having to relist the item.
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pico23
Oct 17, 2003, 9:52 PM
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In reply to: The only way I'm going to buy gear is from Ems, REI or some type of store that sells climbing gear in which I know it is safe. Hell with putting my life on the line with someone else's gear. Why risk it? So you mean to tell me you never climb on booty gear? What do you do with the gear you find? :roll:
In reply to: I've bought non-critical climbing gear from ebay, such as crampons, ice tool picks, etc. I wouldn't buy rope, webbing, or pro from ebay. The stuff's too important not to inspect it "in person." I don't know about you but I consider my crampons and ice tools critical gear. On ice they are my primary belay and their integrity is critical to me.
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theying
Oct 17, 2003, 10:19 PM
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In reply to: I have bought gear from ebay before but as with buying any used gear its kind of a crap shoot. When buying from ebay you can't touch the equipment to thoroughly inspect it. If you do buy from ebay be sure to inspect the gear (whatever it might be) very very good when you get it to make sure that it is in good condition before you use it. You must also ask yourself.." do i want to trust my life to a piece of used gear?". just my .02 I totally agree with this statement. I have purchased plenty of items off of ebay and they have for the most part been a good deal. There are a lot of new items up for auction that can be picked up for substantially less than anywhere else. As with anything it is up to the bidder to know what is a good deal and what can be bought from places like gearexpress or REI for less after shipping. I have also purchased a few used pieces of pro and have had about a 75% satifaction rate. BE VERY CAREFUL when buying used pro. I personally would not buy any rope unless it was new and in package.
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nikdemeis
Oct 17, 2003, 11:16 PM
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I've bought some stuff of ebay but only from companies that sell on there like linkupgear and gear express. You can save about 20-30% on some of there stuff compared to there website if you get lucky but other than that it is a waste of time. rokshoxbkr19 and pico23 are right about not usually getting a bargain. I saw rock empire nuts going for $42 when they are on sale right now for 27.95. Can you say rip off?
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nikdemeis
Oct 17, 2003, 11:17 PM
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I've bought some stuff of ebay but only from companies that sell on there like linkupgear and gear express. You can save about 20-30% on some of there stuff compared to there website if you get lucky but other than that it is a waste of time. rokshoxbkr19 and pico23 are right about not usually getting a bargain. I saw rock empire nuts going for $42 when they are on sale right now for 27.95. Can you say rip off?
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brianthew
Oct 17, 2003, 11:33 PM
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In reply to: I don't know about you but I consider my crampons and ice tools critical gear. On ice they are my primary belay and their integrity is critical to me. Perhaps I should clarify...I wouldn't buy gear that would be regularly stressed to a large degree (meaning fall) that is critical to your survival, such as ropes or slings. Can't say I've ever caught a fall by hooking something, or kicking into the ice (disregarding the fact that either of those actions is likely to break something of yours, be it an ankle, leg, arm, wrist...). But then again, Chris O'Donnell did it.... :)
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roughster
Oct 18, 2003, 8:29 PM
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roughster moved this thread from General to Used Gear / Great Deals.
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