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melekzek
Nov 27, 2003, 6:15 AM
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since it is an action shot, blur might be acceptable.... On the other hand, I wish I could be able to see the face. His shadow adds a lot, if you only were a little farther from the wall and get a better angle. I would definately crop your own shadow. It would have been great if he does not overlap with the dark background but rather be in front of the blue sky. The background is a problem, it is dark and the same color like the wall, and I cannot make much sense out of it, what is behind? Is it a lake there? Are they trees? If he was wearing something different colored, something NOT red, that would have been a lot better....
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martenb
Nov 27, 2003, 11:29 PM
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These are things I hadn't noticed, this is what I have deduced. The blackness: The blackness is actually tree tops. Being sunset there is only warm light left in the light of sun rays and thus there is no 'green light' left to reflect off the leaves. You can also see the same principle from his pants, in midday light they are blue but in this photo they are grey. Once again there must be no blue light left in the suns rays to reflect back. Blue pants in midday light: http://www.geocities.com/marten_blumen/Blue/images/Neib.jpg ( the link dosn't seem to work, just copy and paste it into the Address bar ) Shadow: I totally agree with the my shadow being an issue. I wanted to lean further out, to have more of the rock in frame, alas any further out and my shadow actually would move 10 m across the face! Shadow problem, leaning out: http://www.geocities.com/marten_blumen/Blue/images/xShadow1.jpg ( the link dosn't seem to work, just copy and paste it into the Address bar ) agree / disagree?
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philbox
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Nov 28, 2003, 12:02 AM
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Actually I like the shot of your shadow spread way out across the wall. I think the shadow shot works better than the original critique shot. I found the shadow shot very exciting.
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melekzek
Nov 28, 2003, 3:29 AM
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In reply to: Actually I like the shot of your shadow spread way out across the wall. I would agree w/ philbox here, both of the shots are more interesting than the one here. Note that on the shadow picture, how the climber is pretty visible on the rocks. This is lost on the whipper picture, he just blends into the background.
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straightedgeteen
Nov 28, 2003, 6:43 AM
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In reply to: tpp much darkness. Id have to agree with coldclimb! the blurness is alright but its dose seem kinda blank alot of washieness Cool shot tho
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cryder
Nov 29, 2003, 8:16 AM
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Nice shot that left a few cents on the table... He is being caught a second late after peeling off - maybe a little sharper timing and tighter zoom would make the background issues less pressing. I very much enjoy the warm colors...
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martenb
Dec 7, 2003, 10:25 PM
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Thanks Joe, I think a white shirt would make it clearer. Just on the blue shirt, note that Neils pants are 'blue' but have come out grey in the photo. I've posted my theory on this, scroll back up.
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