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psirro
Jan 23, 2004, 10:54 AM
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i dont know anything about taking good pictures i am a total amature this was luck
http://www.rockclimbing.com/photos.php?Action=Show&PhotoID=23490
any comment about taking good pics is helpfull
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far_east_climber
Jan 23, 2004, 11:26 AM
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nice sunset but I think that it was way too dark.. if you could've it would've been best to adjust the exposure so the mountains would be in shadow but still enough to make out some features.. also i think there's too much of the mountain in the shot. Anyway I'm only one person so lets hear what others have to say
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boulder_monkey
Jan 23, 2004, 11:33 AM
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yea i agree with far_east...very nice sunset but just a bit too dark on the mountain part. i think theres a good amount of mountain in the pic, just needs to be brightened a little bit to show, like far_east said, more of the features. overall for a newb photo taker, very nice though.
~pz all! rock on!
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usmc_2tothetop
Jan 23, 2004, 2:22 PM
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Yea it is dark but you did have an eye for that scene. If your camera has a light meter where it will suggest a shutter speed. You should vary the shutter around those numbers and take a few pictures to see different results. Your camera has to become an extension to your eyes. A set of eyes that you have to operate manually. Good luck with your photography. I really hope you get into it.
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psirro
Jan 23, 2004, 5:00 PM
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thanks a lot guys
so there is too much of dark mountain inside i should better give more space to the spots that have more light...
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scubasnyder
Jan 23, 2004, 5:02 PM
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needs to be brightened
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the_pirate
Jan 23, 2004, 5:49 PM
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In addition to being too dark, the composition sucks. The eye wanders around the frame searching for something to land on but never finds it. It's a snapshot.
Looks like there are bushes or rocks or something on the ridge, maybe if you had moved closer to those and focused on one, silhouetting against the sunset with the clouds..... just a suggestion.
You asked.
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psirro
Jan 23, 2004, 10:38 PM
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thanks
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climbsomething
Jan 23, 2004, 10:53 PM
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No, it's not that great. The mountain blob to the left is blocking the sun- more of the blazing light would have been appealing. There's too much black space, with greyish artifacts that should be edited out. The dark (rain?) clouds to the right are distracting, and the focus is too soft, as evidenced by the blurry bushy protrusions on the mountain to the left. It would be better cropped from the bottom to make a panoramic image, with everything in the colorful background shifted right. (as is, the image is pretty unbalanced, with the strong diagonal of the mountainside and the glow of the sun in the far left)
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jenfu
Jan 23, 2004, 10:55 PM
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Well, I wouldn't go as far as the Pirate concerning the composition. I think the composition has a bit of trouble because the horizon is exactly 1/2 the distance from top to bottom. A general guideline for photography is the "rule" of thirds. Divide the vertical and horizontal into thirds and place points of interest at bisecting points. This will prevent the frame from being split directly in half and giving the eye really no guidence. Also, if you expose for the foreground, your very nice sunset sky will get blown out. You can avoid this by the use of a graduated neutral density filter which is darker at one edge and then lightens towards to other edge gradually. Place the darker side over the brighter sky and the ligher side over the foreground. You'll get less contrast by a bit. I like the silhouetted foreground but it does take up too much of the frame. This is my opinion only. Keep shooting, experimenting, and having fun!
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thomasribiere
Jan 25, 2004, 8:01 AM
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In reply to: A general guideline for photography is the "rule" of thirds.
I would say this is pretty true when one have to divide the composition vertically, but concerning the horizontal division of a picture, I would say that half-half is good when (let's say) both landscape and sky are interesting, but sometimes when the sky is very cloudy, or there's a strong difference of light between landscape and sky, you can reduce the sky to almost nothing. In this case, it's obviously better is the landscape can itself be divided, so go back to the "rule of thirds" with uneven thirds...
Sorry if it's not that comprehensible, but it's sunday morning early, I woke up to go ski and my back is so painful that eventually I decided to stay home. And the snow is falling, falling, falling... pfffffffffff! I'm disgusted!
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ropeburn
Jan 25, 2004, 9:27 AM
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In reply to: A general guideline for photography is the "rule" of thirds.
I was under the impression that the rule of thirds had to do with focus and depth of field. That is, it has nothing to do with horizontal composition. Maybe I'm wrong.......
Back to the picture....
The artifacts in the foreground are very distracting, focus is soft and the overall picture would be more dramatic if the silhouette was more defined.
Of course I am not an expert........
but I play one on the net.....
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climbernnc
Jan 25, 2004, 9:53 AM
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I agree with the postings about the framing, but after many hours of training in this field, you have to find the real focus of your own picture. Are you looking for the sunset or the unkown of the mountains that are undistinguishable.
It is all in the eye of the beholder.
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sean34
Jan 25, 2004, 9:53 AM
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I'm not a big fan with rules when it comes to art. I don't read anything regarding photography because I feel my eye will be jaded by convention. My only advice is to become a master of lighting and keep shooting :)
later dood,
Sean
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craggincragin
Jan 26, 2004, 1:28 PM
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Nice composition, but a bit blurry. I highly recommend a tripod for low-light shots. In order to get more depth-of-field in shots like this, you need to stop down, often resulting in shutter speeds lower than 1/60th, and handholding at those speeds will often make your images blurry. You will notice a great improvement (sharpness) in your sunrise/set shots when using a tripod. Just get a small, cheap one and stash it in your climbing pack - you won't regret it.
Cheers
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wildduck
Jan 26, 2004, 3:03 PM
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too dark
alittle blury
whats that black smog on the right of the picture ?
Good effot anyway !
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viningjc
Jan 26, 2004, 3:09 PM
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Good point Sean!
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sojourner
Jan 26, 2004, 4:39 PM
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in terms of shooting at the sun, the mistake most people make when they try to do a 'sun shot' is not adjusting for the sun. when you shoot a pic like you did, your camera reads a TON of light coming from the sun. if you just let your camera tell you which fstop/shutter speed to use, it will almost always be too dark, like your pic. best thing to do in this situation is to aim the camera at something else, like the mountain or another darker region, and get a reading from there. you'll be opening the aperture a bit or increasing the shudder speed to get the darkness out of the rest of the photo. and if the sun comes out a bit bright, you can always do a burn in the darkroom.
keep takin pics
sojourner
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