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wallwombat
Feb 2, 2004, 9:38 AM
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I live in Australia and need a new drill. Every time I see this question asked it turns into a thread about power tools. I'm not interested in power tools! I used to have this old hexagonal chromoly star drill crap thing that hated me and I hated it. It worked but now it's gone. We are limited in the kind of stuff we can get in Oz, so I would like to know what various people think about various hand drills. You know what I mean. The wombat
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roughster
Feb 2, 2004, 9:40 AM
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The PIKA is the one I went with. It has a alan wrench tightening system versus the drift pin that other opt for. I keeper lined the right alan wrench to the drill itself and now I never have to worry about dropping it. Uses standard SDS drill bits.
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sarcat
Feb 2, 2004, 8:16 PM
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Try this site: www.rescuesystems.com They sell the Pika drill holder. p/n 604310. It accepts SDS style bits. They're out of Lake Powell, UT
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wallwombat
Feb 2, 2004, 11:48 PM
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I didn't mean to post this thread in sport climbing.
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tucsonalex
Feb 3, 2004, 12:09 AM
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http://www.gearexpress.biz/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=G&Product_Code=7456 The Petzl Rocpec uses SDS bits and requires no tool to change bits. Costs $50.00 US.
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cadaverchris
Feb 3, 2004, 12:44 AM
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i have a handdrill that uses two wrenches to change bits. this is very sucky when hanging on a line (or hook!). cuz when you're holding onto wrenches its hard to hold onto the bit too! i believe my drill is a wilderness or hurricane something... no clue really. but if you're thinking of investing. I'd go with what TusconAlex said and pick up the rockpecker drill. - you can also do both 3/8in holes and 1/2in holes from that one drill as well. climb (and bolt) smart
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copperhead
Feb 3, 2004, 12:45 AM
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I don’t know if you can get one anymore, but the Hurricane Hand Drill, designed by John Middendorf, is the schist. It has a collet design that allows use of any type of drill bit. SDS bits are dull and are slow-drilling. Chisel-tipped high-speed steel bits (from any hardware store) work much better and can repeatedly be sharpened. Over-sized bits can also be used (important). If you can’t find one of these gems, go with the Petzl – the Pika one requires an allen key and a tightening screw – things that can be lost or striped-out. Power drills suck and those that use them are lazy cheaters. There is a reason why the use of power drills is prohibited in National Parks. Too bad they aren’t prohibited everywhere.
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Feb 3, 2004, 12:47 AM
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http://www.rockclimbing.com/shopping/index.php?c=22 rcok on!! :mrgreen:
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copperhead
Feb 3, 2004, 12:50 AM
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CC- I’ve never had a problem with the wrenches or losing bits. Maybe you would like to sell your drill?
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scubasnyder
Feb 3, 2004, 1:45 AM
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I agree with tucsonalex I have it and it works well, and its good because you don't need anything to change the bit, so you don't have to worry about losing something else like an allen wrench
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cadaverchris
Feb 3, 2004, 2:23 AM
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copperhead- i've avoided loosing wrenches by teethers. But the idea of changing bits without two wrenches does sound nice. although i have noticed that my bit loosens up in my drill. anyone else notice this?
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bigwalling
Feb 3, 2004, 4:00 AM
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Dude cuhead wants to buy your shitty drill. Sell it!
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copperhead
Feb 3, 2004, 5:05 AM
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In reply to: Dude cuhead wants to buy your s--- drill. Sell it! No I don't; I already have three. Wallwombat should buy it. I keep the wrenches on a leash too – they are tied into the bolt bag. The collet/nut will occasionally loosen (usually only with 3/8” bits) but doesn’t seem like too big of a deal to me. Just tighten it up. The time and effort saved with high-speed steel bits far exceeds any hassles with tightening a loose collet. SDS-bit-only drills are way limited.
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wallwombat
Feb 4, 2004, 12:30 AM
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Living in Oz, I might have to go with the Petzl. Anything else will need to be shipped. Actually, even that will probably need to be shipped. Thanks for the advice. The Wombat
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ljthawk
Feb 4, 2004, 3:59 PM
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Petzl Rock Pecker, it uses the same style quick chuck on SDS power drills; no set screws to loosen up, no extra wrenches to tighten the chuck, and it should be available through any Petzl dealer. L.J.
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brianinslc
Feb 4, 2004, 4:32 PM
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In reply to: i believe my drill is a wilderness or hurricane something... no clue really. but if you're thinking of investing. I'd go with what TusconAlex said and pick up the rockpecker drill. - you can also do both 3/8in holes and 1/2in holes from that one drill as well. Hey, for the right price, I might be interested in that Hurr-can drill... I have an old Rawl...works great, but, bummer to change bits (drift pin). Also have a Petzl Rocpecker. Sharpen up them SDS bits, they work just fine. Fast change from any bit size too, big advantage if you're placing one size on lead, another at belays. It will bite your pinky from time to time... Another nice thing about a rocpecker...you can stash a short 1/4" bit on the side of the handle (or find or cut down (soft rock only as you lose the carbide insert) a 3/8" bit to 4"), and the whole package takes up a very small amount of space and weight in the bottom of the pack. Especially when combo'd with a few 1/4" bolt/studs and a few aluminum hangers. Good emergency medicine and a very small package. Hand drill 1/2"? Even in soft rock...uck... Brian in SLC
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Feb 4, 2004, 5:32 PM
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Having owned and used both the Pika and the Petzl, I'd say go for the Petzl. I had nothing but problem's with the pika, I thought it was a real POS. The petzl has been sweet! josh
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The PIKA is the worst! Well not the worst, but certainly not as good as the Metulious ones, they rock!
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