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Has anybody ever free soloed el cap ever? i was just wondering, didnt find anything on the matter anywhere else. me and some people from the gym where wondering about it. if anybody knows let me know. yeah...k


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I have free soloed El Cap twice. I fell from the 7th pitch on my third try and broke my back, eleven ribs, pelvis, both legs, and collapsed a lung.
I'm glad to be alive. If it weren't for the life vest I was wearing, I would certainly be dead. I will never do it again and neither should you. No one should.

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Dean Potter has probably done the closest thing to free soloing the Nose route. It goes free at 5.13. He solo aids the really hard parts and free solos the rest. Check out Masters of Stone 5 (I think), you can see him soloing 2500' off of the ground.


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this is kind of a loaded question. you need to qualify which routes "count."

the east buttress has been soloed quite a bit.


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i free soloed the nose of el cap once and then i woke up and realized my bed was wet :wink:


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i free soloed the nose of el cap once and then i woke up and realized my bed was wet :wink:
lol I was going to say no ones freed the nose except for lynn hill
dont we all wish we were that strong


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Dean Potter has probably done the closest thing to free soloing the Nose route.

Lynn Hill doesn't count?


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She roped up. So no, she dosen't count.


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Lynn has free climbed all the pitches of the nose but has not free soloed them. Its a big difference.
And the question was has any one soloed them.


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not soloed, FREE soloed. big diference here, too.


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just for clarification does someone want to define all of those terms just so i know, i get so confused sometime. free solo, freeing, soloing, solo aid, free aid, do those even exist am I making them up? i have no idea what anyone is talking about. i just know it's crazy when someone does it without a rope or any protection which is i think what we're talking about...right?


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Defining definitions on this board usually leads to a flame war but here goes anyways....

Free climb- To climb a wall using the gear only for protection and anchors. Basically gear is to safeguard in the event of a wall not to make progress on.

free solo - Not ropes or safety gear and just climbing.

Soloing- Climbing alone, using ropes and gear or not.

I tried to keep the definitions really simple as this isn't really what the thread is about.


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and you also have rope solo wich is when you drag a rope negind you but dont clip the pro (the rope is just for rappel).

aid freeing would be when ouy free an aid section.

aid solo is a solo of aid route (it only means youre climbing alone, without the belayer).


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Why is this in Sport Climbing?


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free solo--you're alone, you fall, you die. no gear, no nothing. you climb this way from bottom to top.

(roped fraid) solo--you're alone, you fall, exactly the same as if you were with a partner except you're a complete loser with no friends and a big boner for yourself for soloing that you can't wait to come down and tell people about how hard you got yourself.

dean potter has come no where near free soloing el cap. yes, he has climbed without a rope on moderate pitches, but so what? you die at 30 feet or 300 feet. it's committing, but no where near the commitment of free soloing el cap. dean potter is also a self promoting deusch

el cap goes free at 5.12d, not 13, jackass. Certainly people have free soloed at that level. But the level of commitment it would take to free solo 36 pitches with the crux 2/3 of the way up and no going down if you don't feel right is beyond imagination. i can't ever see someone free soloing el cap, but it would be a really hot mindfuck to be wrong.

unless of course you count the east butt of el cap as an el cap route which no one does. people who climb the east butt don't say, "hey i climbed el cap," unless they're androgenously retarded.


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I know where I climb that a rope solo is defined as free climbing the route while basically self belaying. Using the gear to protect against a fall but not for upward advancement.
Otherwise your just carrying a rope which means your still soloing.
Is it defined differently elsewhere?


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unless of course you count the east butt of el cap as an el cap route which no one does. people who climb the east butt don't say, "hey i climbed el cap," unless they're androgenously retarded.

What the hell does that mean? Sounds sexist to me. However from the rest of your tirade I'd suspect you used that term incorrectly.


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free solo--you're alone, you fall, you die. no gear, no nothing. you climb this way from bottom to top.

(roped fraid) solo--you're alone, you fall, exactly the same as if you were with a partner except you're a complete loser with no friends and a big boner for yourself for soloing that you can't wait to come down and tell people about how hard you got yourself.

dean potter has come no where near free soloing el cap. yes, he has climbed without a rope on moderate pitches, but so what? you die at 30 feet or 300 feet. it's committing, but no where near the commitment of free soloing el cap. dean potter is also a self promoting deusch

el cap goes free at 5.12d, not 13, jackass. Certainly people have free soloed at that level. But the level of commitment it would take to free solo 36 pitches with the crux 2/3 of the way up and no going down if you don't feel right is beyond imagination. i can't ever see someone free soloing el cap, but it would be a really hot f--- to be wrong.

unless of course you count the east butt of el cap as an el cap route which no one does. people who climb the east butt don't say, "hey i climbed el cap," unless they're androgenously retarded.

Woah buddy. Why don't you twist one up, and chill for a little while. That was quite the tirade there.

"complete loser with a big boner for yourself"
"Self promoting deusch"
"jackass"
"androgenously retarded"

I won't even stoop to the level of shooting insults back at you. Why the hostility anyway?


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tenn_dawg I can't stop laughing at that picture of the kitten *LoL*.


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and you also have rope solo wich is when you drag a rope negind you but dont clip the pro (the rope is just for rappel).

That's free soloing. If you're climbing without relying on gear for upward progress or safety, as in you fall, you deck, you're free soloing. It doesn't matter if you're trailing a rope, a safe, or your kid sister. Rope soloing is self belayed lead climbing, be it trad, sport, or aid, I'd imagine. Never done aid, so I won't claim that one with any certainty.

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Mandrew..? Where all here for you man, come on let it out. I know how you feel holding all that anger inside all these years *LoL*. Hey, does RC.com do a criminal background check?.I'm just wondering ya know *LoL*


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unless of course you count the east butt of el cap as an el cap route which no one does. people who climb the east butt don't say, "hey i climbed el cap," unless they're androgenously retarded.

What the hell does that mean? Sounds sexist to me. However from the rest of your tirade I'd suspect you used that term incorrectly.

Hmm...but sexist to whom? That is the question seeing as androgYnous means "suitable for both sexes" (in one of numerous meanings, but all related to transgender) :wink:

So he's saying that if you climbed the east butress and said you lcimbed el cap that your neither feminine or masculine, and retarded. hmmm....


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Me and the kitten are gonna free solo El Cap this weekend and the 2 killer brownies are gonna watch..LoL


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So he's saying that if you climbed the east butress and said you lcimbed el cap that your neither feminine or masculine, and retarded. hmmm....

Good thing I have never free soloed the East Butress.


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OMG!1 this again.

i am so perplexed at this seemingly never-ending confusion on the difference between free climbing and free soloing.

it's fascinating. in a "why are they still missing the painfully obvious?" sort of way.

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