|
j-tha-b
Deleted
Apr 14, 2004, 4:24 AM
Post #1 of 4
(2567 views)
Shortcut
Registered:
Posts:
|
hey i just went out to the lake and i finally met with the landowner to figure something out. BEFORE you climb at lost lake you must get ahold of Steve Grossman. He owns the land and does not appreciate people driving all over it for various reasons. he has cattle all over the place and the roads are eroding at an alarming rate. also he is worried about liability. this is his land and in order for it to be open to anybody we need to respect him and his land. If you want his phone number email me at imsmrt@hotmail.com with climbing lost lake in the subject bar.or josh dusek at kurupted_loser@hotmail.com. with the same for subject also this is a trad only area. there are bolts everywhere but we are goin to remove them all because he doesnt want them there. we want to climb sport too but well take what we can get. ya know. please be responsible. thanks alot
|
|
|
|
|
needtolearnhowtoclimb
Jul 8, 2004, 11:44 PM
Post #2 of 4
(2567 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Apr 24, 2002
Posts: 216
|
Yeah. Respect the man. Does anybody know about the club out of helena that has been buying all of the hangers and bolts from Bighorn Wilderness in Great Falls, and puttin them up out at lost lake? Peace, josh
|
|
|
|
|
tragic_x_photography
Apr 10, 2005, 1:40 AM
Post #3 of 4
(2567 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Feb 23, 2005
Posts: 12
|
I would try asking the guys at Base Camp in Helena. They would know about the club. I'm interested in doing some climbing in Great Falls the end of this month. Could we possibly get together? Farewell, God bless. ~Tragic
|
|
|
|
|
mojede
Jul 25, 2006, 7:47 AM
Post #4 of 4
(2567 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Apr 28, 2006
Posts: 119
|
This may or may not be seen by those interested in access, but I will give it a try, as it has worked for me on a few occasions. There is a Montana statute (other states have them as well) that protects a landowner from liability if they do not charge a fee for recreating on their land. It is not perfect, but has held up in court. Essentially it states that if no fee (or money) is exchanged for recreating on one's land, then the user has no claim for damages against the owner, providing that the owner did not willingly and negligently allow for an accident to occur (digging holes to #$%^ you up comes to mind). I am no attorney, but Bill Dockins of Bozeman is, and is well versed on this issue. Sometimes land owners are not aware of the statutes protecting them and providing them with the correct information is all it takes to reassure them and their insurance provider that recreating/climbing on their land can be a no-hassle issue. Good luck, and I hope that this reply is a spark to all climbers in being active in seeking access to climbing that is on private property.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|