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verticalearth


Aug 13, 2001, 10:18 AM
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my team and I have recently summitted a 1800 ft wall but had to use the top rope for the last patch due to bad rock conditions we used the top rope for only a 30 foot patch and started climbing again from the end of the rotten patch have we climbed or not wat do the international rules say


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Aug 13, 2001, 11:43 AM
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Ah, screw the rules. As long as you didn't use a helicopter, elevator, or other lazy man's device, it's all good to me.


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Did you reach the top? the yes you summitted. However I believe that would be considered an aided climb, as opposed to free climbing the route.

But who's counting, its you against yourself, nobody else matters.

Climb on.


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Of course you summited, but I agree with litedawg, if your intent was to climb it all free, then the TR would negate that.


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No. It was not a free climb I don't even know it was and aid climb. It is kind of like grabing on to the quick draw when you are getting tired.


kagunkie


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Thats called "FRENCH FREE"


wigglestick


Aug 20, 2001, 11:59 AM
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I agree with beerandblood.
Anything over one pitch and some of the rules go out the window. Sometimes you have to holster your pride and make sure that you live to climb again. All that loose rock near the summit could have severly hurt somebody and a rescue would be extremely dangerous for many people. I think you made the perfect decision. You placed your safety and everybody elses safety in front of your ego and pride. Good job.

There are bold climbers and there are old climbers, but there are no old, bold climbers.


hammockrg


Sep 21, 2001, 8:11 AM
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Where was this wall and has it been climbed before. It is pitch not patch


jds100


Sep 24, 2001, 11:03 AM
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I think he was using "patch" as in "section", part of a pitch, not a whole pitch.

Of course you summitted; you got to the summit. How you got there is the only matter that might require a definition. And the need for a definition is up to you and your partners; perhaps the definition helps describe the climb to others, and maybe it helps you place yourselves and your achievement in the spectrum of climbing's styles.

Just curious: did you use the rope as an aid to gain height on the route, or did you use it only for TR protection through the 30 foot section before you returned to lead climbing? And it would be nice to know where and what route, and even when. Without knowing, I'll still say, "Congratulations."


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