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wilcox510
May 27, 2004, 3:24 AM
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Disclaimer: The events in this story are true, but the names have been changed to protect the innocent (and the guilty)
My friend "Bill", who is a somewhat obsessive climber, recently broke up with his longtime girlfriend "Hillary", who is not much of a climber. Last week in a fit of rage "Hillary" tried to flush "Bill's" entire rack down his toilet, which apparently hasnt really been cleaned since "Hillary" moved out. So now he has an entire rack including stoppers, tons of cams, slings and quickdraws which have been in some nasty water. This is obviously pretty gross, especially when you think how often you hold gear in your mouth while trying to place a piece (at least I do that a lot). So, what should he do? The metal is easy enough to clean, but the slings are kind of a problem. Would that rope cleaner stuff be a safe solution that might kill off some of the nastiness? What would happen if you put that stuff in boiling water? I can't believe it would melt anything, but it still doesnt seem like a great idea. But then again, neither does holding holding a toilet-water soaked camalot in my mouth!
We need help!
p.s. I swear this story is not about me. I don't even have a girlfriend to try to flush my rack.
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phugganut
May 27, 2004, 3:28 AM
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:lol: :lol: :lol: Man I don't even know. I'm laughing too hard.
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jstp
May 27, 2004, 3:29 AM
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Now that is vindictive.
I'd say scrub that gear then if you really are inclined to bighting your gear cut the slings and get new ones. if your used to grime just a really good washing and dry will probably be enough though. if you do cut the slings mixing a bit of peroxide in the bathwater wouldn't hurt. don't forget the post dunk lube.:wink:
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dirtineye
May 27, 2004, 3:32 AM
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I put a Posion Ivy encrusted sling in the washing machine on warm/warm gentle cycle with a bunch of clothes and LIQUID detergent and it worked fine.
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bsignorelli
May 27, 2004, 3:37 AM
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ROTFLMAO
Damn...I know breakups can be hard but thats just mean...
You could suggest your friend sneak into her house and have fun with her toothbrush like this gal did... [edited]
Oh and don't Yates and Fish sew slings on anything? Might be better to spend $3? on each piece of gear on the rack instead of $30+ on those cams.
Bryan
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carloscrimpy
May 27, 2004, 3:49 AM
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dude that pic is nasty dont put stuff like that on this site it has nothing to do with climbing nobody should click on that link
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bandycoot
May 27, 2004, 3:58 AM
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That picture would be better if the handle were showing instead of the bristles :twisted:
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grabngrip
May 27, 2004, 4:00 AM
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yeah that picture link needs a disclaimer. as for the gear i suggest cleaning all metal pieces and getting everything reslung.
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far_east_climber
May 27, 2004, 4:01 AM
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just wash them off in some warm soap and water... i ocassionally have toilet water splash into my mouth (don't ask)... it's not as dirty as you think. I reckon it would be fine just using it as it is unless it was dropped in fecal infested water - otherwise, bite, suck and thumb that gear into the crack.
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wedgy
May 27, 2004, 4:08 AM
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Let's evaluate the toilet for a minute before we decide EXACTLY how extensive this sanitizing will be. You state that the toilet was not cleaned. Was it used, not flushed and sat for the two weeks... you will need an autoclave. Yates will sew new slings on the cams.
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stewart
May 27, 2004, 4:15 AM
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Just go to your local home-brew store and buy some sanitizer (Iodophor or something similar). Better than trying to boil your gear!
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wilcox510
May 27, 2004, 4:15 AM
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I cannot comment on the toilets condition in more detail, but I believe it was most likely flushed regularly. Let's call it "standard bachelor toilet dirty". And yes, the picture was wrong.
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myhandshurt
May 27, 2004, 5:00 AM
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Sell the gear! Not to me tho :lol:
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overlord
May 27, 2004, 8:53 AM
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
anyway, i sugest replacing the slings and oiling the cams.
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taualum23
May 27, 2004, 12:42 PM
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As soon as I stopped laughing, I thought...what kind of a dumb-a$$ tries to flush a rack? Mine is like 25 pounds of metal. WHo thinks that's going to work? Can you see the look on her face..."oh, hmmm, it's just sitting there like a spring loaded turd..."
Oh, man. I am glad my divorce is amicable so far, becasue my toilet is also "standard bachelor dirty", maybe a little worse.
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timstich
May 27, 2004, 2:00 PM
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In reply to: Now that is vindictive.
There have been worse psycho ex-girlfriend encounters with the climbing rack. Try being thrown in dumpsters around town along with various other personal belongings, never to be seen again.
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flashsixteen
May 27, 2004, 2:06 PM
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You know, this does speak to the credibility of "Bill." She tried to hit him where it hurt. She didn't flush his keys, remote, or anything that most men put on a pedistool. The man is an all out climber. Maybe this is the way most people are viewed on this board by those around them, but I am surrounded by climbing posers who pull out their still shiney rack when girls are around or at parties where they want to look big...maybe one of them will trade you a rack, theirs are still factory new. Anyway, I like "Bill" and I hope my friends see me the same way. Sorry Bill :(
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nature
May 27, 2004, 3:16 PM
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man, that really defines owning a 'crappy rack'
bwaahhahahaaa thanks for the laugh. If it were me, I'd probably throw the rack in the washing machine with the liquid detergent (already mentioned) and be done with it.
poor "Bill"
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takeme
May 27, 2004, 4:38 PM
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LOL!
It sounds like the key question here is whether there is any way to wash the slings, while being sure that they won't lose any strength. I don't have any expertise in this area, but aren't there soaps that are made for use on ropes? I wonder if these would work (in the sense of being safe for the slings)?
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jc5462
May 27, 2004, 6:17 PM
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Do not place slings in boiling water if they have Spectra in them! The temperature of boiling water may do some harm as Spectra has a low melting point. In "On Rope" they list that temps. of 150 can start to melt (On Rope Page#26) and the chart on page 25 shows a sticky point of 150 and a melting point of 297. I had read manufacturers data that mentioned 400+ degrees. I would live by the guidlines if it is to hot for me to put my hands in and leave them in it is to hot (It is just like washing your baby!).
Soap, You should be fine with a liquid soap like antimicrobial dawn, and it is easier and cheaper to find.
Check with your local climbing shop as they might have something set up for sending in cams for replacement slings and they would have a reputable sewing company and you might get better, faster service and save on shipping too.
I know that Forest Safety Prodects in Durango, Colorado does sling replacement, as I used to refer my customers there.
Jim Cormier
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crotch
May 27, 2004, 7:01 PM
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I would try an ultrasonic water bath.
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bsignorelli
May 27, 2004, 11:28 PM
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In reply to: That picture would be better if the handle were showing instead of the bristles :twisted:
Yeah...but then she would have gone from gross to potentially getting someone really sick. But at the same time it would have gone from funny to really funny. :)
Anyways...my apologies to those who clicked on the link before Coldclimb edited it away. The pic fit the funny post but in hindsight it didn't belong here on rc.com.
Bryan
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jsj42
May 28, 2004, 12:47 AM
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I'll tell you one thing, I went climbing with "Bill" this past weekend and you better believe we used MY rack.
Although, perhaps the toilet would be the perfect place to wash your gear - provided it was clean first. Just bring your rack and a couple good climbing mags into the bathroom and lock yourself in there for an hour or two...
One day, when enough time has passed, "Bill" will look back on this as one of his most hilarious "climbing related" stories ever.
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crshbrn84
May 28, 2004, 1:15 AM
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use mouth wash j/k
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