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neleh
Apr 23, 2002, 11:52 PM
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FIGURE 4, I have to teach this to some people, I know what it is and how to do it, but I want more info on it,eg where it can be most likley used or teaching pointers on how to do it properll ect
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beyond_gravity
Apr 24, 2002, 1:29 AM
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It's most likly used on takling ice roofs/pillars! It's allmost useless for rockclimbing, as dynoing is better.
Dyno On,
Jeremy
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jgorris
Apr 24, 2002, 1:33 AM
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Seriously, IMO, there are so many more essential body position and footwork techniques-- I mean, the figure 4 is such
a specialty move it makes much more sense to emphasize the fundamentals.
I think I've actually had to use it once in the gym and I've never needed to use it in the real world.
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joemor
Apr 24, 2002, 2:39 AM
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figure 4?????
i thought that was a wtessling move!!
joe
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andrewokc
Apr 24, 2002, 3:13 AM
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who needs a figure 4?
screw that.
campus that shit.
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neleh
Apr 24, 2002, 1:02 PM
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Gee guys!!!!! K well I actually did use it in the bouldering gym the other day, but yeah that was the first time I have used it in the gym, I am just trying to add a bit of vriation to stuff, have you got any other great techniques thAt I don't know about then?
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miagi
Apr 26, 2002, 4:15 AM
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Ive used it once on real rock, but it is very rare that you will find holds setup in such a way that you need to use the figure 4 instead of other moves. Personally, I think it's better to dyno the move. If the hold is too small to dyno to, then bump off some intermediate holds up to that hold. If you can't do that, then that's where I pull out the F-4 move. Like I said though, I really dont concentrate on it too much for I rarely use it.
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paintinhaler
Apr 26, 2002, 4:28 AM
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I have used it on pulling lips of overhangs, for holds you can't dyno for "small crimps".
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roadtrip
Apr 26, 2002, 5:02 AM
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roofs, man, roofs
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leadingedge
Apr 26, 2002, 8:34 AM
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Perhaps its a way to get the audience to say
WOW!!
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ponyryan
Apr 26, 2002, 10:18 PM
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Can anybody explain the figure 4 in climbing just for the sake of my curiousity?
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bradhill
Apr 26, 2002, 10:52 PM
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A figure 4 is as follows: While hanging, usually off a roof, hook one leg over your opposite arm so the back of your knee is resting on top of your elbow. You can then leverage yourself up to extend your reach a bit. It never really caught on in rock climbing because it's not very useful and extremely difficult to do. It's much more popular in high grade ice and mixed climbing where a tool makes for a much stronger deadhang point to leverage off of. (but crampons make it more tricky!) Getting out is another trick altogether.
You don't see them often- they're more popular in Europe, but ice tools are starting to emerge specifically designed for this move, with bizarrely curved and extended shafts that allow you to stick a tool, let go of it and figure 4 on just the shaft, not your elbow.
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andrewokc
Apr 27, 2002, 4:59 PM
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"roofs man roofs"
again, campus, heelhook, deadpoint, throw on a foot, dyno, smear, or CAMPUS.
you will never need a figure four.
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