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Jul 15, 2004, 4:16 PM
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rap or lower at Williamson Rock  (North_America: United_States: California: Los_Angeles_County: Williamson_Rock)
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after a lead, i usually rap down instead of lowering. but last time there, a partner insisted that the anchor biners are regularly replaced at Williamson, so we should always just lower down. true?

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Generally, this is okay. What you DON'T want to do is toprope off the sport shuts. Gang TRing, a mucho common thing at Wmson, would make short work of those anchors.


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i'm not an expert or anything on it but as a fairly regular climber at williamson i've been told its generally ok to lower off of the anchor biners but not top rope off of them (use your own draws for that). personally i always rap off instead of lower. makes the biners last longer as well as my rope cuz its not running along the rock as i'm being lowered.

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after a lead, i usually rap down instead of lowering. but last time there, a partner insisted that the anchor biners are regularly replaced at Williamson, so we should always just lower down. true?

thanks

And how much do you contribute to the cost of the hardware?


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after a lead, i usually rap down instead of lowering. but last time there, a partner insisted that the anchor biners are regularly replaced at Williamson, so we should always just lower down. true?

thanks

Generally, at Williamson the only person who should lower-off through the anchors is the last person in your party to climb the route. The first climber to lead the route should place draws on the anchors and lower through the draws. Subsequent climbers should toprope through the draws or, if leading, clip and lower through the draws, rather than the anchor hardware itself. It is acceptable for the final climber to lower through the anchors; he or she need not rappel.

-Jay


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thanks, all. yes, got the TR & last-to-lower routines down pat. standard operating procedures. was wondering if anyone knew who replaces the the anchor biners at Willies and how often


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to get the lowdown, and sure, to help too. haven't climbed at Willies as often as before. would be first time this season actually, but might end up out at the Needles this weekend. so, details or contact info?

nice beta for the big bear areas, by the way. been loving the spots up there


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