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macherry
Aug 12, 2004, 4:37 PM
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Doing a bit of shopping while i'm in the city and i visit the local target store. They are selling knock-off nalgene bottles: 2 for 6 bucks. They look and feel like the real deal, but i don't have a nalgene with me to do an actual comparison. So, i bought a couple and i'm going to put them to the test this weekend. Has anyone else used these cheapies?
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boku
Aug 12, 2004, 4:44 PM
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My wife and I carried 2.5 liters of those things on a recent hike to the top of Half Dome and back. Of course, we had another 4 liters in camelback-type bladders. They seemed to work great. I didn't notice any "plasticy" taste or smell to the water.
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chadnsc
Aug 12, 2004, 4:46 PM
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I have never personally used one of the off brand nalgene bottles but I have seen them perform in the field. The biggest drawback I have seen is that the bottles break much easier than the name brand bottles, especially during cold conditions. Also the caps and their leashes aren't as durable as the original and tend to leak after abuse. I hope this was helpful.
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tchamber
Aug 12, 2004, 4:54 PM
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knock offs are a little thinner (and thus lighter, but more likely to break), which is to me pretty inconsequential. The main problem I've seen with them is that they will start leaking out of the lid. When you first buy them they're usually fine, but don't be suprised if they leak.
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crotch
Aug 12, 2004, 5:04 PM
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1 liter hdpe bottled water bottles work well, are compressible when they are empty and last a long time, and if you break one, oh well, you are only out $1.00. Also, they are way lighter than any of those thick lexan bottles. edit to add: when they get nasty or crumpled up, reincarnate them as pee bottles.
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chrisparedes
Aug 12, 2004, 5:42 PM
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I've got a knock off Nalgene bottle called "Endurance". It seems to work well enough. It holds water and I drink out of it.
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areyoumydude
Aug 12, 2004, 5:47 PM
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I am sure the price of nalgenes will be coming down soon. The knock off that I got at Climb Max is just like the nalgene, but half the price.
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Aug 12, 2004, 5:48 PM
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I use my never ending supply of 1 liter tonic water bottles. I put a loop of shoelace around the neck, under the rim, and reinforce them with duct tape. They last a surprisingly long time before I have to replace them. I also use the accompanying empty gin bottles to carry my water when bouldering. They fit nicely in my taco style pad, the water looks like the original contents, and I never have a shortage of strange looks or willing spotters.
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macherry
Aug 12, 2004, 6:08 PM
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...........can you do the same thing with tanqueray bottle? :lol: :lol:
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edge
Aug 12, 2004, 6:13 PM
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In reply to: ...........can you do the same thing with tanqueray bottle? :lol: :lol: The glass is heavier, but if you're careful whipping it out on the rocks, then yes, yes you could. (I am always cautious when whipping things out on the rocks, BTW)
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scrapedape
Aug 12, 2004, 6:35 PM
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In reply to: when they get nasty or crumpled up, reincarnate them as pee bottles. What, like when they're at the end of their life and ready to start leaking? :shock:
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franklen
Aug 12, 2004, 7:14 PM
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I bought a Coleman brand Nalgene-type bottle years ago (maybe 1999) before all these other knockoffs started hitting the market. It has two drawbacks. It does leak unless you put superman force into closing the top, meaning it is doubly difficult to open up again, which is the second drawback. I wouldn't buy another knockoff unless I was sure it was tried and true by others.
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snoangel
Aug 12, 2004, 7:24 PM
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I know this is slightly off-topic, but I thought some of you may be interested in the potential health risks associated with various types of plastics we currently eat or drink from. So for what it's worth, here's the link... http://www.gristmagazine.com/...04.asp?source=weekly
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dorkmaster
Aug 12, 2004, 7:28 PM
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my friend broke my name-brand nalgene bottle by swinging it while full into a metal spike. this is the same bottle that I had dropped off of cliffs. I was NOT happy.
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caveman
Aug 12, 2004, 7:38 PM
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I think real nalgenes are alot better, besides who needs an ergonomic water bottle?
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frettincrags
Aug 12, 2004, 8:36 PM
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I read that link about plastics and I will definitely be looking into #7 plastics (lexan). This is the first time that I have heard of this type of plastic being harmful when used in food applications. I think Nalgenes are the bomb. I first encountered them in the chemical industry where nalgene was orginally manufacturing containers for various industrial chemicals. It would seem to me that extensive research has been put into the Nalgene food application. That being said I am apt to pour a whole box of mortons on that article about lexan in food applications. But from personal experience Nalgenes rock. I froze one not too long ago and it did not break nor does it leak. It did however warp a little. Anyway until conclusive evidence is shown I will continue to tote my water in Nalgene bottles. Thanks Nalgene, I love you Joe Shoe Nalgene company Just kidding
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Aug 12, 2004, 9:09 PM
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i used a knockoff nalgene while i was up on the dnb on middle cathedral, and it failed me...i ended up taking a fifty foot whipper onto an RP and it of course, blew apart the rock. now i have a giant gash across my once scarless tender face girls hate me and i wish i were dead. the moral don't use knockoff nalgenes...the suck balls.
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Aug 12, 2004, 9:25 PM
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The ergo 'knock-offs' don't accept stickers well. Only true Nalgenes are permissable.
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veganboyjosh
Aug 12, 2004, 9:53 PM
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i think that the cheaper knock off store brand bottles are not the same material as nalgenes. i don't buy nalgenes anymore, cos of some other products they sell, but there is a brand that rei sells for around the same price as nalgenes, and they are lexan. that is the key to a good one, i think. as for the leakage, that's another issue.
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oregonalpine
Aug 12, 2004, 9:55 PM
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I just feel so much cooler with my water bottle saying "nalgene", plus the other's tops just look cheap, and the one rip off i had leaked
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frettincrags
Aug 12, 2004, 10:09 PM
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veganboyjosh- If you dont mind me asking what other products from Nalgene cause you to not purchase their bottles? And I agree with you, I think Lexan is the key to a good bottle, as well as a polypropylene lid. (PP for the leaks)
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veganboyjosh
Aug 12, 2004, 10:41 PM
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frettin... i might get some of these facts wrong, and a google for "nalgene boycott" will give you more than you need to know, but basically, basically nalgene started as a lab supply company. measuring tools, bottles, etc. hence the oz and L marks on the sides. they also apparently buy and resell equipment that is used as restraints in lab animal tests. they say that they don't make the products, they just resell them. but that's enough for me not to want to buy their products. i think the company that i use now is called wsi. rei sells them for 8 bucks i think. they make a bottle that's the same size, but has little grooves for your finger and thumb, and a harder top than nalgenes, and they make one model that has a webbing and quick clip to attach the lid but the one i had like that i dropped and it landed on the clip so it didn't work like it was supposed to.
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frettincrags
Aug 12, 2004, 10:47 PM
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Vaganboy - I had no idea. If this is a fact then I will be getting rid of my Nalgenes and switching to another company as well. I having came from a 10 period working in the semiconductor field was very familiar with nalgene products but this is the first time I've heard of this. I will have to do some research. Thanks for the heads up!
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tchamber
Aug 12, 2004, 11:16 PM
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I don't know if they sell the restraints or anything for animals.... but I know for a fact (ie have seen them in labs) that nalgene makes polycarbonate mouse/rat cages for containment of animals and feces/urine collection. I still love nalgene. Makes me happy to know that they make top of the line containers even in the lab industry. If you choose to boycott them, however, I fully understand.
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kimmyt
Aug 12, 2004, 11:24 PM
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Question for all you folks who are talking about how they can't use a plastic bottle, cause the makers of said plastic bottle also makes other plastic things like cages and bottles used in biomedical research: Do you currently use any medical products, creams or ointments (i.e. aspirin, bengay, hemerrhoid cream)??? Cause if you do, don't you think it's a bit silly to be boycotting Nalgene? I mean, I'm all for sticking with your beliefs, but I just find it a bit hypocritical that most people who are so anti-animal research are also usually the first to run to the doc's and get a perscription of ultra-strong antibiotic for their latest sniffle. Now, if you don't use any products that have been tested on animals, then congrats to you, it's great that you're sticking with your beliefs and most of this stuff doesn't apply to you. But Nalgene is a major producer of labware used in labs of all shapes and sizes, from those that use animals in their research to those that don't. They started that way, will continue that way, and still bring in the vast majority of their revenue that way. Do you honestly think that boycotting a few silly bottles (the sales of which probably measure up to about a drop in the proverbial bucket) is really going to make a difference to them? Just curious. K.
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